PROTO-MAGYAR TEXTS FROM THE MIDDLE OF 1st MILLENIUM?
or
Are
they published or not?
B. Lukács
President of Matter
Evolution Subcommittee of the HAS
H-1525 Bp. 114. Pf. 49.,
lukacs@rmki.kfki.hu
ABSTRACT
In 2003 Bérczi & Detre published a
linguistic relict (Ref. 3 of this study) from 500-700 AD, which, for first
sight, looks like a substantial amount of proto-Magyar words. Here I show that
the language is not proto-Magyar, in the sense that after 1400 years of
evolution the language would not have ended in recent Magyar. (By any chance
the language is now extinct.) I think no more definite statement can be done
now, due to the fragmentary nature of the publication. The material seems,
however, an important linguistic relict, so I discuss some possible connections
to Uralic & Altaic languages. As a possibility, I show up the mysterious σαβαρτοι
ασφαλοι of Constantine Porphyrogenetus (Ref.
54), in genetic connections with Magyars but “near to
0. SOME FOREGOING
EXPLANATIONS
What are Magyar
& Hungarian? Magyar is a language and an ethnic entity (facts & beliefs will
come soon),
Language. I wrote an
English text, mainly for technical reasons. Some Magyar vowels turn out badly
in some Netscape Navigators, and I do not like to type in Magyar under Windows.
Also, the matter is not an internal Hungarian one: as you will see, Armenian
language & culture is heavily involved, plus Uralic linguistics too.
Transliterations. Languages
involved here have at least 3 totally different alphabets (Latin, Cyrillic
& Armenian), and orthographies widely differ even within one alphabet. So
here I transliterate every word using in discussions of linguistic evolution to
Magyar. Of course in many cases the
Magyar transliteration is possible only in some approximation; let it be,
however. Now, Magyar orthography is quite surprising, but very phonetic and
logical.
For consonants, most
single letters are read more or less as in German; the only bigger difference
is "s", which stands for German "sch", English
"sh". As for digraphs, "softening" or
"palatalisation" is indicated by a "y" (as in English
"
For vowels, you get an
approximate picture via German. Vowels a, e, i, o & u are not far from
German, Italian or Turkish; for "e" the letter really stands for 2
different sounds, one is more or less German, Slovakian or Finnish "e",
the other is "ä". Another 2 letters, ö & ü, correspond to the
same German Umlaut (and Turkish) sounds. However a special Magyar (&
Slovakian; so Hungarian) trick is to indicate the length via primes. There is a
minor difference other than length too between "a" and "á",
but I will not discuss that; it is a matter of geographic variation too.
Present Magyar
"i" seems to be the inheritor of two ancient vowels, both of the
front and the back unrounded high vowels. The two i's you can now found in many
Turkish languages. If needs be, I will transcribe the back i as "ď".
Long-range Correlations.At some
points you will find a sign Ąx, where
x is a number, and later a text (Go back to Ąx.). Of course you do not have to go back. But there are
some long-range correlations in the text. Indeed this "Go back..." is almost the sign for
a footnote; but the footnote is some previous part of the text. The footnote is the text just
before the respective Ą.
1. INTRODUCTION
Heribert Illig has
become quite unpopular among Central European historians while not so in some
folklorist &c. circles. I definitely decline to discuss this matter.
However now a Hungarian site exists [1] which
discusses his ideas about the "invented, non-historic" 297 years
between 614 & 911 AD, and this site contains a "dictionary" of
"Hunnish" words [2].
This
"dictionary" may be very important in Magyar linguistics; we soon
shall see, why. However something is rather unexplained about the text.
The text seems to
originate from the Hungarian geologist Cs. H. Detre. However it tells that it
is so far unpublished. However a booklet identical textually for some 95 % with
[2] exists [3]. While on the book Year 2004 is indicated, the booklet had been
in distribution on 24 Oct., 2003 already, when I got a copy.
So I
do not fully understand the circumstances under which [2] was created.
However [2] & [3] are almost identical (except for some graphics in [3]).
So I will use [3] here.
[3] (or [2]) is
extremely important in Magyar linguistics, especially in the study of the
evolution of Magyar language (and I note that Sz. Bérczi, one of the two
authors of Ref. [3]) was the Secretary of the Matter Evolution Subcommittee of
HAS led by myself for 12 years). The reason of importance will be given in the
next Chapter in a proper way. Here I only note that some circumstances are
rather anomalous: e.g. the booklet is formally published as a painting book
(!); and simultaneously [2] does not seem to know about [3].
Since I am not in
contact by the authors for years, although I wrote to one of them in the autumn
of 2003, without any answer), I cannot discuss the problems with them, and that
is not needed anyways. The material is published both as a booklet [3] and as
an Internet material [2], and now everybody can use that material.
One author of [3] is a
physicist at a University, the other is a geologist,
so both work in Science Proper. So I am not permitted to question their
scientific honour and have to regard the published material genuine. I
definitely would like to know more about the circumstances and details of the
discovery, but perhaps, according to physicist jargon “they deserve a
subsequent paper”. Just now it seems I have not much chance to get the extra
information.
But I can write
something even based on the booklet. And indeed, the material is important for
Magyar linguistics. Maybe professional linguists should discuss it first; but I
waited 10 months already.
2. THE MAGYAR AMONGST THE
LANGUAGES
Magyar is the biggest
language in the Carpatian Basin, and spoken outside of it by numerous emigrants
of last century (plus some 100,000 autochtonous csángó-ceangau in Roumanian
Moldavia), altogether 14-15 million speakers. The language is not Indo-European; it may or may not be
Nostratic.
The most widely
accepted opinion about its classification, definitely accepted by the Academies
of Sciences of all Uralic nations having Academies at all, is that Magyar is
genetically a Uralic language, and especially
1) Uralic forked into
proto-Samoyedic & proto-Finno-Ugric;
2) then
Proto-Finno-Ugric forked into proto-Finnic & proto-Ugric;
3) then
proto-Finnic on the West evolved into Finnish Proper, Lapponian, Estonian, Liv,
and a multiplicity of other languages not spoken outside of
4) proto-Ugric on the
East evolved into Ob Ugric in Westernmost Siberia and Magyar in the
This scheme is
supported by many good etymologies which I will not repeat here, plus some (not
fully unequivocal) data of archaeology. As for Magyar, however, it is not supported by physical anthropology
& culture. In these points Magyar speakers are nearer to Altaic groups
(mostly Turks). Also an extensive layer of early Turkish loanwords can easily
be identified in Magyar, mainly r-Turk, or Bulgarian Turk (
As for scholarly literature, it is big, but
mostly written in Uralic languages. Here I give references in an indirect way.
You can go hence to 2 Internet sites of me [4], [5], and there I give
etymologies plus references to some textbooks.
Of course, you cannot
get scientific certainty about the
past of Magyar language. In principle you can collect unlimited information
about related languages in the present,
but you cannot observe Past. You may
accept old written records (or you may not; e.g. old legal documents were
frequently falsified even after centuries), but even then millennia remain
unobserved. But you may invent kinship patterns, can try to force all your data
into such a picture and within it you
will get the most parsimonious story. So finally most parsimonious stories of
different paradigms will compete; and maybe
you will be able to choose the most convincing one.
The best story of the Uralic paradigm starts with a purely
Uralic scenario up to the end of pre- (or proto-)Magyar
times, and then applies heavy Turkish influence from Southeast in the middle of
the first millenium AD. Finns were already too far to West and
However a
diametrically opposite Turkish paradigm
exists too, in which Magyars are not Turkized Ugors, but Ugrized Turks.
Supporters of such a view are in utter minority amongst linguists, but not so
small minority amongst anthropologists, and the idea
is fairly acceptable for Turks.
Note that it is not
easy to settle the question for ever. Namely, languages can be learnt; and
words can be borrowed even more easily. Grammar is more conservative, until it
breaks down in Pidginisation, as Anglo-Saxon & Norman French simultaneously
lost almost all of their synthetic structures about 1100 AD in fusing into
Middle English. Now, Magyar is moderately polysynthetic
even now, so it has not undergone Pidginisation. However Uralic and Altaic
grammars are rather similar for first principles.
I am not arguing for
or against Turkish origin of the Magyar language; I generally use the Uralic
theory and would bet for it, if for any. I only tell that the opposite theory
is not utterly nonsense. The next Chapter gives some chronologies, heavily
depending on historical theories.
3. ON THE CHRONOLOGY OF
MIGRATIONS
While educated guesses
do exist on the time data of the Uralic forkings, they are unimportant for us.
Tacitus about 100 AD
writes about some "Fenni" more or less at present
However proto-Magyars
must have been involved into at least one of horserider migration. When they
enter the
A) Huns starting from
the East cross the River Volga (this is the Uralic name:
B) The Bulgarian
Migration starts in cca. 463. Priscus Rhetor (earlier an envoy from
C) The Avar Migration.
Avars are mentioned as Zhuan-zhuans by the Chinese sources, but this seems to
be a simple derogatory name (cca. "susurration",
moving always to and fro, for a Chinese). In 551 they are defeated by
the Turks in the Mtn. Altai, then in 17 years they
traverse the whole grasslands to the Carpathian Basins, which they occupy on
Easter Monday, 568.
Hungarian
archaeologists can detect two later waves. An immigration
to the Basin is rather probable about 630, and the Codex Fredegarius gives some
story about it; and about 680 certainly a new population arrived. This last
wave coincides the foundation of
In the XIXth century
in Hungary Wave A) was popular: so proto-Magyars were involved in the Hun
migration until the Basin itself, then they retreated and again entered the
Basin in 896. However lots of arguments were collected against proto-Magyars in
the Basin in the Vth century (mainly linguistic ones). Proto-Magyars remaining
at the Eastern side of the Hun Empire would not contradict too much anything,
but see the next paragraph.
However,
(proto)-Magyars surely lived in something near to a symbiosis with Bulgarians
(or Onogurs), see the linguistic traces. Everything gets an easy explanation if
Magyars became involved in the Bulgarian Migration in 463. However
they remained in Easternmost Europe, perhaps still in 750 just at the Western
Then Wave C) is
"too late". Of course, Magyars, having entered Easternmost Europe
with Bulgars could participate later in Avar motions too. But proto-Magyar -
proto-Slavic contact at 600 would be too early for the linguistic evolution (I
will return to this point in due course).
So in the Uralic paradigm of Magyar origin
Wave B) yields the most parsimonious scenario. The southernmost Ugric
population reached the neighbourhood of
Some details still
have to be elaborated. Surely Ugors have their unique horse terminology (horse
= ló, law, the Finnish word hevonen is clearly not a relative, but the Altaic
words are also apart (although Sinor [7] tries with ulagh = post horse); also
stirrup = kengyel < kengy-al, beneath the "kengy", a commion Ugric
word for a kind of boot), but Ob Ugors do not show any trace of horserider
nomadism, although they do know horses.
Now if a population
without any nomadic tradition suddenly becomes involved in a migration of horse
nomads, by any chance they will be employed as mere living targets; they cannot
be used even as herding boys. So either proto-Magyars learnt
with surprising rapidity, or their chiefs were extraordinarily good diplomats.
But maybe the details will be worked out later.
The alternative
scenario is far less elaborated but it exists; it was more or less accepted by,
e.g., archaeologist Gy. László. It is based on the
fact that the present ratio of Ob/Danube Ugors is o(10-3),
and it was in the same order of magnitude 400 years ago. So maybe Ob and Danube
Ugors are not sister groups, but present Ob Ugors were originally a peripheric
population having partly learnt proto-Magyar. Then, of course, Ob Ugors would
give only a snapshot about proto-Magyar language, some 1500 or 2000 years ago,
and no more evolutionary data could be got from their present languages. But
then Magyar would be the only original and extant member of the whole Eastern
half of the Uralic family (Magyar-Finnish correspondences are too heavy to
simply take Magyar out of the Uralic group, see: hand=kéz~keszi,
water=víz~veszi &c.).
4. FIRST WRITTEN TEXTS
In the Uralic
family/group the first extant written texts are rather late. In Finnish the
date is cca. 1540 AD. On the wider Finnish side the first written texts come
from St. Stephen of
This Magyar is an
ancient stage of the linguistic evolution (see later), but even this early
stage was very similar for the present Magyar for the trial origin of words:
Ugric words, r-Turkish words and Slavic words. From the early texts as well as
from the XIXth century statistics we see the same picture. Words
for elementary kinship & nature are more Ugric, less r-Turkish and lest
Slavic. Agriculture words are maybe fifty-fifty r-Turkish and Slavic;
pastoral terms are more r-Turkish, less Ugric and lest Slavic. Finally,
Christian and state terminology is more Slavic and less r-Turkish. The Slavic
is most probably proto-Slovakian and/or -Slovenian.
This is easily understood
in the Uralic paradigm. Proto-Magyars were first similar to Ob Ugors: mainly
hunters, fishers & gatherers, but with some horses too. Then they
accultured to Bulgarian r-Turks, so the older layer of agriculture words (wine,
beer, wheat, barley &c.) are purely r-Turkish, and also lots of termini of
statemanship & religion were too. But in the Carpathian Basin they learnt
Christianism, early feudal society, and some more evolved agriculture.
But I must tell
something about the opposite scenario too, even if I do not recommend it. There
"Ugric" simply means the layer which is not Turkish, neither Slavic.
Such words do exist in great abundance. Numerals are neither Turkish nor
Slavic. Also most parts of human body are such (but not all, i.e. knee=térd and
neck=nyak are r-Turkish). Also many words for natural phenomena are such, i.e.
Sun=Nap & Moon=Hold. This alternative viewpoint always has some difficulty
about the Finnish connections of many "archaic" words, but let me
continue.
According to the
traditional teaching the earliest Magyar text is the 86 isolates in Tihany
donation document from 1055. This may be challenged for two points. The first
is Cs. Detre's one in [2] and [3], and that will come
later. The second is the observation that there is an earlier donation document
(of the nuns of Veszprém Valley, maybe from 997) in Greek, also with isolates. OK; Graeca non leguntur.
Now some examples must
be seen; but in the next Chapter.
5. LINGUISTIC EVOLUTION IN
THE OLDEST DOCUMENTS
Look at the text from
1055 [8], the Royal Chart of the Tihany Abbey. The longest Magyar isolate is:
feheruuaru rea meneh hodu
utu rea
The meaning is clear (the term must define one border of the estate):
in modern language & orthography it is
Fehérvárra menô hadútra
Of course, the Latin cannot show vowel length. The meaning is:
To the military way going to
White Castle
the military way was built by the Romans and the
1) There are neither definite nor indefinite articles (the, a).
2) Lots of nominal endings are still separate words (as e.g. in present
Japanese).
3) Lots of words ending in 2004 with consonants still ended in 1055 in
a high vowel. Feheru>Fehér;
uaru>vár; hodu>had; utu>út.
To Point 2): nobody is
surprised. In present Magyar there are 25-30 nominal endings and more
postpositions (nobody counted them). Obviously in the last 950 years some
postpositions agglutinated to the noun. To Point 3): less words end in 1055 in
vowels than in consonants. Linguists always reconstruct vowel endings for the
ancient stages: so then the end-vowels are just being lost in 1055. The 997
document also shows the vowel endings, a 1138 foundation document still shows a
few, and there is some argumentation about the Regestrum Varadiensis in 1216 [9];
but never later.
Now let us combine the
two observations. In the modern language
way, street = út
< utu
to the way = útra
< utu rea
way, Acc. = utat
< utu + -t (?!)
This shows that the "original" Nominative (meaning that much
earlier than in 1055) was "uta" or "uto", not
"utu". In that time the “-t” ending of the Accusative was already
agglutinated, but the "-ra" ending of the Allative was still a
separate postposition. When, after 1055 sometimes, the "-ra" fused,
there was already no vowel at the end of "út" (the lengthening at the
front compensated the loss at the end), so there is no vowel between the
"t" and "r", but there is one between the two
"t"'s. Lots of such examples do exist. Of course, the evolution
before 1055 is theory (not having texts from that time), but modest enough a
theory.
So far I spoke
independently of paradigms. But there are problems with the Accusative in any
paradigm. Nowhere amongst Finnish, Ugric or Turkish languages can we find a
“-t” Accusative suffix; and we cannot even guess the time of agglutination. We
cannot know everything.
Now let us see the
burial speech from 1192 [10]. It is already almost
modern. But some endings still does not show vowel harmony. Here some explanation is needed for non-Altaic and
non-Uralic readers.
It is not absolutely
certain from an ancient text if two groups of sounds formed two words or one
compound. But noun with ending can clearly be distinguished from noun +
postposition in languages with vowel harmony. Vowel harmony is most evolved and
regular in Turkish languages, from which you may take the Turkish of Turkey
(the "Ottoman Turkish") as a good example. It is also quite strict in
Mongolian. As for Uralic languages it is laxer, with exceptions (which have
good explanations) in Magyar, while it is quite regular but somewhat simplified
in Finnish. It is almost lost (?) in Estonian, while it is practically
nonexistent in the two Ob-Ugric relatives of Magyar. However let us not dwell
on theories about the evolution of Vowel Harmony.
Let us much simplify
the picture and tell that Vovel Harmony means the following. There are front vowels and back vowels. Now 1) in one word stem all vowels must be of the same
type: either all front or all back. And 2) endings must have two forms: front
and back. Front stems take front endings, back ones back ones.
If this is too
abstract, let us see examples from Modern Magyar. The Allative ending is
-ra/-re. Then:
Stem |
Meaning |
Quality |
Allative |
út |
way |
back |
útra |
fű |
grass |
front |
fűre |
galamb |
pigeon |
back |
galambra |
egészséged |
your health |
front |
egészségedre |
dorombolás |
cat’s rhythmical sound |
back |
dorombolásra |
dörömbölés |
beating the door |
front |
dörömbölésre |
Table 1: Magyar illustrations
for Vowel Harmony
At the same time see the postposition
above=felett
With it, the forms are: út felett and fű felett. So we can
clearly distinguish par excellence endings obeying Vowel Harmony and par
excellence postpositions not obeying it (being separate words). The cleavage at
any snapshot is not so clear: just now in 2004 we have two endings, -ért=for
and -képpen=(cca.) as it goes, which do not yet have
back forms. OK; after some time they will. We can detect when scribes started
to write them together with the stems. The number of nominal endings is growing
in Magyar in the last thousand years.
The situation is
similar for verbs. The suffix for Pres. Ind. Pl3 Indet.
is -nak/-nek, so they dorombolnak, but dörömbölnek.
We cannot even guess how old is the fusion. But there
is an ending forming a verbal form which is approximately the English can/may +
Verb. This suffix is -hat-/-het-. Ą2 I write = (Én) írok. I can write = (Én) írhatok. I look = (Én) nézek. I can
look = (Én) nézhetek. (The pronoun is
in bracket, because it is redundant. You may use it, but that betrays that you
are a foreigner. Or: there is some emphasis on it. I write; you do not.) Now,
there is (I would like to write: there does be, but that is ungrammatical) the
quite regular and common verb hat.
(Én) hatok = I act, or, I have an
influence. Hatás = influence. Hatalom = power. Even: hathatok = I can have an influence. We do have educated guesses when
the verb hat started to act as a
suffix -hat-/-het-.
Presently the Inessive
-ban/ben (in, but in the "within" sense; the other "in"
would be rather an Adessive) has two forms and of course stems automatically
choose the proper ending. But in 1192 it is still milostben, paradisumben, not
malasztban, paradicsomban, as in 2004. This is OK; the
original form of the separate postposition contained "e", as today
the form "benne"; it took some time after agglutination to develop
the alternative "-ban". So in 1055 the later Inessive was still a
separate postposition; in 1192 it was (seems to have been) fused but still was
not a par excellence suffix, not yet even in 1350; but in 1450 the texts show
fusion and Vowel Harmony, so the evolution of the Inessive suffix was ready.
Finally let us observe
a more complicated suffix in 1192. Ą3 We found 2 nouns:
hotolm (> hatalom in 2004), scerelmes > (szerelmes in 2004). Hatalom =
power, szerelem = love, both are formed from verbs: hat = acts, szeret = loves.
The ending is then -alom/-elem, already with fusion and Vowel Harmony in 1192.
(And hence you can see how to distinguish the two "e"'s in Magyar: in
-elem the first is the pair of "a", in the second of "o",
so the first "e" is lower than the second. It is indeed so.) So
-alom/-elem forms a noun from a verb. Let us try to form more: köt = bind,
kötelem = a specific legal status to bind. Sír = cries, siralom = a sad
thing/situation. This ending is so uniquely Magyar
that even Ob Ugors cannot make it. Or is it uniquely Magyar?
Look: Magyar szerelem = Komi muszalöm. The Perm Finn languages show some
surprising similarities to Magyar as if they were as close as Ob Ugors. Still no explanation. (And you can see that Vowel Harmony in
Komi is much weaker than in Magyar.)
6. IN THE 1960'S: A
SUGGESTION TO LOOK FOR ARMENIAN TEXTS
Sometimes in the 60's
T. Cseres, (later for years the president of the Union of Writers; not the Pen
Club, but a kind of a Trade Union) got an idea, I do not know, whence.
Armenians collect any manuscripts of national affinity.
Now, this was a rather
desperate idea. In any Uralic scenario the main body of proto-Magyars were
never nearer to Armenia than 800 km. Except one splinter group: around 700 one
group detached itself and went through the Caucasus. We know almost nothing
about them; but in 1329 they still existed because then Pope John XXII wrote a
suggestion to Missionary Bishop Bernhardus to try to convert them [11]. They were
quite near to
But T. Cseres got the
usual Hungarian reactions. The plan was refused as "mirageous". This
is the usual lazy Hungarian answer if somebody gets an idea: it is easier not
to do anything and for reason you can tell that some hallucination misdirected
the guy as a mirage in a desert. He seems to see something nice but it is not
really there.
In that time I read
the suggestion in a literary weekly, then the argumentation, and finally the
negative conclusion. OK, I told: the chances would not be too good, anyways. Of
course in the sixties I was in no position to make any research; I could not
read Armenian texts, and I would not have been admitted into Matenadaran
anyways. (Cs. Detre is older than me and knows Armenian.)
Remember this
suggestion, however.
7. HUN TEXTS IN MATENADARAN
OR IN THE SURB KHÁCS?
Of course, the
Matenadaran has Hunnish texts. Some groups called Huns roamed in the plainer
regions of the foots of the
Are they really Huns,
more than 2 centuries after the Nedao battle? Who knows.
But Kalankatuaci tells that they burn horses for a giant monster named Tangari
Xan. Now, Tängri Khagan, or in other style the Kök Tängri is the Eternal Blue
Sky, the chief deity of all traditional Turks and Mongols, and of course
religious horseriders, including old Magyars, offered horses to the chief god.
Even Ob Ugors know that in great matters the gods would prefer horses. So
Kalankatuaci's Huns are some horserider people indeed.
Now,
cca. in 682
And now it is proper
to start to cite Ref. [3]. Immediately the subtitle on p. 2 states that
"The Hun Little Dictionary and the Grammar Part was made according to the
Grabar (Old Armenian) translated by Ödön Schütz & Csaba Detre (1978)."
And near the end of the booklet one can find a reference "Edmund Sjuc: Hin
hajeren - chuneren jerkulezú matjanner Iráni medzs - Matenadaran, Jereván,
1962". Fortunately a Magyar translation is also given (in this form even
Armenians would be in trouble: an Armenian text with Magyar orthography cannot
be understood for anybody except a Hungarian Armenian/Armenologist) "Ödön
Schütz: Very old Armenian-Hunnish bilingual manuscripts in
I did not see this
publication and shall not be able to read it in the close future (anyways, it
is in Armenian), so I remain at [3]. [3] tells that
two manuscripts contain Hunnish texts, the Isphahan Codex and the Codex
Cretensis, the first was written cca. 500, the second in cca.
700, and now both are in the Abbey of Szurb Khács (Sacred Crux), in
8. ON THE SCHÜTZ-DETRE
TRANSLITERATION
Detre or Schütz (or
both?) applied an unexpected method when interpreting the texts. The Magyar
orthography is very phonetic (of course, for the Magyar phonemes), and Armenian
is too, for the Armenian ones. The Armenian alphabet contains 38 simple letters
(one, for the open "o" sound, was not yet in use in 700), + some
ligatures. Magyar, including di- and trigraphs, has an alphabet of 44 signs (of
which, to be sure, 4 do not represent Magyar phonemes). Although the two
phoneme sets do not coincide (there are more consonants in Armenian and more
vowels in Magyar), it was obviously better to transliterate the
"Hunnish" words into Magyar than, say, into non-phonetic English or
into Latin of 25 letters. (Henceforth I omit the quotation marks of
"Hunnish". OK, they were maybe Saragurs or Belendjers; it seems that
Hun was not a language but a tribal federation, but Saragurs had belonged to
the Empire of Attila the Hun, and the educated guess of historians about the
nomads of
Note that in XVth
century the Armenian alphabet was regularly applied to an Altaic language: a
Kipchak Turk tribe converted to Armenian Christianism in
The exact details of
the Schütz-Detre transcription seem to be unpublished, and of course, if I
cannot see the originals, much can depend on the transcription. In Ref. [3]
only a few sentences deal with the transcription. The most important statement
is the list of the transliterated
letters (the Armenian originals are not given). The "Magyar" alphabet
of the Hun texts is then
a,
á*, b, c, cz%, cs, csh%, d, dz, dzs, e, é*,
f, g, gh%, gy%, h, ch%, i, j, k, kh%,
l, ll$, m, n, o, ö@, p, ph%, r, rr$,
s, sz, ssz$, t, tz%, th%, u@, ü@,
v, w*, z, zs
Now I must take the responsibility to guess and explain something not
published by the authors. If any in the following few paragraphs is contrary to
the unpublished details, Dr. Detre can correct it, e.g. at [2].
* denotes
single letters of the Magyar alphabet which, however, pose nontrivial problems
in the transcription. The prime in á
and é denotes length. However
Armenian does not denote length, so it is nontrivial, what is behind the two
primed letters. I have no real idea, what is the duality a/á in the original Grabar texts (maybe a geminated a for á, or a ligature), but at least Western
Armenian speakers in
$ denotes
geminated consonants in the transliteration. Hungarian orthographical tradition do not regard geminated consonants long: an "ll" or
"kk" denotes two consonants. (Slovakian has long versions of r and l, but this length is denoted by a prime just as for vowels, and
primed "ŕ" is not equivalent with "rr". In Magyar,
e.g., ssz stands for a geminated sz, and behaves differently in
hyphenation, if the first sz is in
the first syllable, the second in the second, or if both are in the same. Now,
there may or may not be geminated Grabar letters behind ll, rr and ssz, but note that there are two
different "r" sounds in Armenian, so that difference may be
responsible for r/rr. As for the other two
"geminates" we must wait until the publication of details.
% denotes di- and trigraphs not
used in the canonical Magyar alphabet (although some were used earlier). The
solutions seem to easy, let us go from group to group.
Surely there are the
aspirated stops of Gabar behind kh, ph & th. Also, there is an aspirated
version of cs (English ch) behind csh. However, beware; I think, ch is not the aspirated version of c (English ts), but that aspirated
sound must be either cz
or tz (see next paragraph). I am not
sure about the difference between cz and tz, but I
note that the Dictionary does not in fact employ dz. So maybe tz is the
Grabar letter for dz. Indeed the
Western Armenian pronunciation would be c
in the present Hungarian orthography, but in some older texts rather tz (and in English ts).
The digraph ch must be the similarly written Scottish
or German sound. In the scientific transcriptions of Grabar it is either x or
χ; observe the place of ch in
the Schütz-Detre transliteration alphabet just after h (exactly the same place as in Slovakian). The digraph gh is surely the γ
of Grabar. As for gy it seems to be
an alternative reading of the combinations di-,
gi- or gj-; or maybe of dzs-.
@ denotes simple vowel
letters in Magyar, two of which are ligatures in Armenian. The letter u is surely the Grabar combination OW;
present Armenian writes "u" in this way. Note that in the
international transcription of Armenian proper names "u" is often
corresponds not to this combination but to no Armenian letter at all. Namely,
in groups of consonants Armenian speakers often insert automatically a short, back,
high unrounded sound, roughly similar to Turkish "ď". Western
Europeans then seem to hear an "u", because
for them a back, high, unrounded vowel is impossible, so their brain
substitutes it with the rounded counterpart. As for ü, Ref. [3] explicitly notes the problem and tells that it can be
written in Armenian by UJ or by Greek Y. Now, while the front high rounded
vowel does not exist in Armenian, it does exist in Turkish place names with
substantial Armenian communities up to World War I, as e.g. Kütahia. In such
cases a trigraphic combination of o, w & i (j) is used, and it would be
rather surprising to read the trigraph anything else. As for ö, that vowel does not exist in
Armenian either, but I checked the recognition of my ö sound by some native East Armenian speakers. Now, some of them
accepted my ö as their swa sound,
which does have a letter.
I cannot tell more at
the present state of publication of the Detre-Schütz studies. But the general principles seems clear enough.
9. WORDS IN THE HUNNISH-MAGYAR
LITTLE DICTIONARY OF SCHÜTZ & DETRE
With the transcription
fixed, it is straightforward to compose the dictionary. Albeit I did not see
the raw material, the Codices must have been composed in Armenian, with some
references to the (Daghestan) Huns, say: for
X the Huns say Y. Ref. 3 gives some 300-400 words, and then tries to find
out the elements of Hun grammar.
The result is rather
unexpected. Some half of the words is rather closely related to Magyar. (I will
make more definite statements later.) Ref. [3] claims to have recognised a
layer from an utterly different language; but that is a hypothesis, and there
are hypotheses enough here. In addition the extra language is represented
mainly by astronomical terms.
Let us see a
demonstration of "closeness" to Magyar. I take very elementary words
for comparison.
English |
Hun |
Magyar, 2004 |
Magyar, XI-XII c. |
Vogul |
Finnish |
Turkish (Ott.) |
arrow |
neil |
nyíl |
? |
nyál |
nuoli |
oguz? |
hand |
kezi |
kéz |
kéz |
kát |
käszi |
? |
head |
phe |
fej |
fej |
pängk |
pää |
bas |
woman |
inü |
nô |
né |
né |
nainen |
karď |
horse |
lú |
ló |
ló |
luv |
hevonen |
at |
dog |
kutha |
kutya |
? |
kútyuv |
? |
köpek |
stone |
kevi |
kô |
kű |
kääv |
kivi |
tas |
way |
utu |
út |
utu |
lyoh |
lű |
jol |
three |
hurum |
három |
harmu |
hurum |
kolme |
ücs |
yellow |
sarakh |
sárga |
sárig |
kaszm |
keltainen |
szarď |
Table 2: Some Hun words on
Uralo-Altaic background
I kept “ä” for “open
e” in Finnish & Vogul, but remember that Magyar orthography does not
distinguish “ä” and “e”. According to Grabar, I guess “e” behind Hunnish “é”,
and “ä” behind Hunnish “e”; but I cannot be sure. Vogul “v” is bilabial, but
old Magyar “v” was either. Maybe in some rows I should have chosen another
alternative; but if a relative of the Magyar word does exist, I took that. Some
Old Magyar words are really after XIIth century; then I chose the oldest
available. Also, Old Magyar orthography generally
did not indicate length. Even then, you can see what is the kinship at least
for that half of the Hunnish words which Detre considers related to Magyar. As
for statistics, for Parts of Body he gives 21 words, of which 14 is "very
similar" to Magyar (I cannot make a more linguistic statement for first
approach), while for Animals it is 15 from 31. Roughly it seems as if the Hun
language were not much farther from present Magyar than the XIth c. Magyar is;
and the Magyar-Hun distance seems definitely smaller than the Magyar-Vogul one.
As for the grammar,
the scribes are Armenian, and a Hunnish language, be either Uralic, or Altaic,
or anything between, must be very far from Indo-European Armenian for grammar.
So we cannot expect the correct recording of details. However for first
impressions I can tell the followings.
The Hun language of
[3] seems agglutinating. This is common Ural-Altaic feature. 3 dependent
nominal cases + Plural are recorded, with quite Magyar-like suffixes (the
Magyar Accusative and Plural is without parallel anywhere so far in Uralic and
Altaic). Personal pronouns are also very Magyar-like. As for
the verbs, [3] states that much verbs seem irregular. Still the verbal
declension is agglutinative, and the endings are generally close to Magyar.
Instead too much explanation I simply give the "regular" endings on an Uralic & Altaic background:
Person |
Hun |
Magyar Indet. |
Early Magy. Indet. |
Vogul Indet. |
Finnish |
Turkisk |
Sg1 |
-m |
-k |
k |
ghum |
e |
im |
Sg2 |
-sz |
-l/-sz |
-l/-sz |
ghön |
t |
szin |
Sg3 |
-j |
ř/n |
ř/n |
i |
kee |
ř |
Pl1 |
-nkh |
-nk |
muk |
v |
mme |
iz |
Pl2 |
-tekh |
-tek |
tuk |
ghön |
tte |
sziniz |
Pl3 |
-mekh |
nek/nak |
nek |
ghöt |
vat |
ler |
Table 3: Verbal
declensions in some agglutinating languages; Praes. Indic.
In this Table lots of
simplifications have been done. Magyar & Finnish have multiple endings
because of Vowel Harmony, and a variety of extra interposed vowels may appear
too (sometimes indicated by -). But anyways: the general picture is the same
for any Uralic or Altaic language,
but the actual Hun suffixes are nearest to Old Magyar.
I would not discuss
too much the further details of verbal declensions. The reason is double.
First, I would not expect too much understanding of an Uralo-Altaic verbal
declension for an Indo-European Armenian monk. Second, Ref. [3] gives moods
& tenses too, but with partially a bad terminology. E.g. [3] calls a tense
"Near Past", but that is really Simple Past or Preterite, contrasted
to Far Past, which seems to be the Present Perfect, from the endings. The
reason is that Simple Past is now out of use except a small corner of (present)
Roumania [16], and it is substituted with the Present Perfect as
"Past".
Also, [3] mentions a
combined form which is called there as (the Magyar mirror translation of) the
Present Conditional. Now it is given as
heti-(m,sz, ř, nkh,
tekh, kh) + Infinitive
where the Infinitive is Root+in.
Now, this combination
is definitely not used in Magyar, it was unknown even in Old Magyar, but it is
analogous with the
fog + personal
ending + Infinitive
of the Formal Future. However, according to the
Vocabulary,
hetin = to be able, to
act, in the sense of German "mögen"
But then this cannot be a Conditional. Today's Magyar has a synthetic
form
Verbal Root + (-hat-/-het-)
+ Personal Endings
expressing that the indicated person may/can do something; and that is not
Conditional. (Go back to Ą2.) Since henceforth I should analyse synchronously
the Hunnish grammar + the authors' individual ideas about Magyar grammar, I
stop here with the verbs.
As for Numerals, the Hun
words until 11 seem good Uralic:
Number |
Hun |
Magyar |
Vogul |
Finnish |
Turkish (Ott.) |
1 |
idzsi |
egy |
akv(a) |
ükszi |
bir |
2 |
keltü |
két/kettô |
kit(igh) |
kakszi |
iki |
3 |
khormu |
három |
húrum |
kolme |
ücs |
4 |
nijdzsi |
négy |
nyila |
neljä |
dört |
5 |
hütü |
öt |
at |
víszi |
bes |
6 |
hotu |
hat |
hót |
kúszi |
altď |
7 |
jeti |
hét |
szát |
szeitszemän |
jedi |
8 |
loncsoj |
nyolc |
nyollov |
kahdekszan |
sekiz |
9 |
klüntiz |
kilenc |
óntöllov |
ühdekszän |
doguz |
10 |
tíz |
tíz |
lov |
kümmenen |
on |
11 |
tiz hen idzsi |
tizenegy |
akwhujplov |
ükszitoiszta |
on bir |
Table 4: Some Uralo-Altaic
numerals, from 1 to 11
Now until 7 the (Hun, Magyar, Vogul) triad is so close that there is no
reason to analyse the differences. For 8-11 the general formation method is
similar, for "8" Magyar and Vogul are really close, but for
"9" Magyar & Hun are.
I stop here with the
comparison of words. The situation seems simple enough: Hun has a dominant part
of vocabulary, which is only so different from Magyar
as one would expect from the 1500 years of separation compared to the Old
Magyar - Magyar distance of 900 years. Geographically & historically this
would cause substantial difficulties, but first let us concentrate on the
"other half" of words.
10. TRACES OF OTHER
LANGUAGES?
Ref. [3] is rather
brief on the other half of the vocabulary, telling simply that 1) another
language, very distinct from the Uralic or Turkic languages, is present; 2) the
next strongest influence comes from Armenian; and 3) that there are very few
explicitly Turkish etymologies. Now, Point 1) is interesting but needs much
more work; Point 2) is natural enough (e.g. the scribes being Armenian) and
Point 3) does not seem to be true.
E.g. look at Colours.
Yellow is sarakh. While this is close to the Magyar "sárga", that is
Turkish in Magyar (probably Bulgarian Turkish or r-Turkish). Interestingly
enough "green"="zezild". That again seems Magyar
("zöld"), but in Magyar it is Osetian ("zäldä"="a kind
of grass").
I try to make a very
approximate statistics, using Plants & Animals. There are 14 plant names in
[3]. From this 14 10 is related to Magyar, but 2 Magyar words, "
It is even more so
amongst Animals. 31 words, of which, as I told, 15 is probably related to
Magyar. However of them some are clearly Turkish. Let us see some traditional
etymologies; of course until Cs. Detre does not look for etymologies of Hun
words, I can discuss only those of the Magyar ones.
Number |
Animal |
Hun |
Magyar |
Turk. etym. |
Slavic etym. |
Uralic etym. |
2 |
horse |
lú |
ló |
ulagh? |
- |
Yes |
3 |
dog |
kutha |
kutya |
köpek?? |
- |
Yes |
6 |
fish |
kala |
hal |
- |
- |
Yes |
8 |
eagle |
sas |
sas |
? |
- |
? |
9 |
falcon |
hülie |
ölyv |
Yes, B |
- |
- |
10 |
raven |
khulla |
holló |
- |
- |
Yes |
11 |
bull |
büka |
bika |
buka, B |
?? |
- |
12 |
ox |
üker |
ökör |
vögör, B |
- |
- |
14 |
cow |
inke |
tehén |
- |
- |
- |
16 |
bear |
hevi |
medve |
- |
Yes |
- |
17 |
wolf |
jugra |
farkas |
- |
- |
- |
18 |
fox |
vüla |
róka |
- |
- |
Yes |
19 |
camel |
tüve |
teve |
Yes |
- |
- |
20 |
ewe |
howi |
juh |
- |
- |
?? |
21 |
mouse |
csucsa |
egér |
- |
- |
Yes |
22 |
rat |
racsa |
patkány |
- |
Yes |
- |
23 |
monkey |
majmun |
majom |
? |
? |
- |
24 |
pig |
tonzu |
disznó |
Yes, B |
- |
- |
25 |
horn(ed) |
szoru |
szarv(as) |
- |
- |
Yes |
27 |
frog |
beka |
béka |
Yes, B |
- |
- |
28 |
lark |
bulbül |
csalogány |
! |
- |
- |
29 |
snake |
kila |
kígyó |
- |
- |
Yes |
30 |
lizard |
klik |
gyík |
- |
- |
? |
31 |
dragon |
vom |
sárkány |
Yes, B |
- |
- |
Table 5:
Comparisons for the origins of 23 animal names.
Here – means the lack
of accepted etymology. B indicates that the accepted Turkish etymology seems to
be Bulgarian (r-) Turkish. I omitted indefinite or utterly exotic animals. As
told, the etymologies are for the Magyar words, and I composed this Table
according to usual Uralic linguistics. Still we can see that lots of the
Hunnish words do have Turkish etymologies. 6 Hunnish words surely have Turkish
kinship (the majority Bulgarian Turkish); observe that #28, bulbül, is clearly
the Turkish bülbül, while the Magyar word is different, and for 2 others (#2
& #3) it is possible. So (Bulgarian or r-) Turkish words are quite frequent
among Hunnish animal names, just as one
would expect it from the general history of Migrations.
11. VARIOUS INDIVIDUAL
PROBLEMS
This Chapter is a
Variosa Curiosa. I am not a professional linguist, but at some places I would
investigate some details if I could. I mention some points here.
1) The Status of Vowel
Harmony
The degree of Vowel
Harmony greatly varies among the related languages. Generally it is a strong
rule in Altaic languages (even proto-Japanese might have had it about 800 AD [17]).
On the other hand, it is rather weak in lots of Uralic languages. It is a
strong rule in Magyar & Finnish, but it is weak or nonexistent in some near
relatives of these two. E.g. it is rudimentary (remainder?) in Estonian, next
kin of Finnish, and it is nonexistent in Vogul & Ostyak, next kins of
Magyar (except for endangered Tavda Vogul dialect, under Tatar (Turkish)
influence).
A simple explanation
would be that Vowel Harmony is an Altaic import; it may be, but Samoyedic
languages have something similar [18], and I cannot guess any place & time
for strong Turkic influence on Finnish.
OK, we do not
understand it; still facts are facts. Now, Vowel Harmony in Hunnish seems much
weaker than in Magyar. Of course, the language of the scribes did not know
Vowel Harmony.
2) River and Sea
River="volgjagh",
sea="tengir". "Volgjagh" has an ending of the Part. praes., so "something flowing". Now, 4 rivers have
this as second half of the name (rivers
The
"sea"="tengir" is rather similar to
"tängri"="sky", which is then the name of the Supreme
Turkic and Mongolian God. Borrowing?
3) The Magyar Name of Ödenburg
The most Western
Hungarian substantial city is Scarbantia (Latin); the Magyar name is
4) Shanyü Balambér
This Emperor led the
European Huns through the River Volga (Etil) in cca. 370
according to age-old tradition. (Go back to Ą1.) But [3] gives the
meaning of the name: "Welambiri"="Strong Ally". Now, whose ally could be Balambér, Emperor of All
European Huns?
5) Star names
Some star names in [3]
can be explained (maybe Antares is Vereni because it is red, i.e. veresi?), and
some cannot yet. But I am disturbed by 4 names:
"Aldebaran"="Aldebaran",
"Altair"="Athair", "Bethelgeuse"="Betelgeuse"
and "Fomalhaut"="Fomalhaut". Kulturwörte?
Whence and in what way?
12. ON EVOLUTION
Let us now continue
the evolutionary discussion suspended at the end of Chapter 8. Some 50 % of the
Hunnish vocabulary is strongly correlated with today's Magyar; the remaining 50
% has not been linguistically analysed. Some words may be Turkish (as
"bulbül"), some Iranian (as "lady"="aszuni",
"fortress"="vara" and "green"="zezild",
which are Iranian in the usual way of explanation; for
"gold"="zarani" the Iranian etymology is very strong and
"zaranya" is "gold" already in Avestan times, so it must
have come that way). Slavic words are not possible in 500, and a lot of words
may have come from the numerous and not too well known Caucasian languages
(e.g. Chechen "sziri" = Magyar "szürke" = Hun
"szorild"). The 50 % of "unknown origin" indicates a lot of
independent evolution for Hun and Magyar. In the same time the other half is
very similar to Magyar. For that half Hun is indeed the nearest relative of
Magyar, nearer than Vogul.
There is a routine
explanation in the Turkish paradigm to the analogous fact that some words are
rather similar between Magyar & Vogul, while some ones are not related at
all. The explanation is partial language acquisition; that Vogul was originally
a small Palaeosiberian language, not similar to Magyar at all, and then
proto-Voguls learnt a lot of Magyar words. Ą5 Good; but why
so much Body Parts & Numerals?
Really, in its Magyar-like
half the Hun is "too modern". From 997 upwards we can follow the
evolution of Magyar in written documents. In that time Vowel Harmony was strong
but a lot of today's nominal endings had only one form, so could not obey Vowel
Harmony, so surely they were still separate words (or agglutinated only
recently). OK, in the Hunnish vocabulary we also do not find too much
agglutinated endings.
However there is
another unidirectional change: the reduction of short vowels at end-position.
We saw that Finnish preserved them at a degree similar to that where Magyar was
in 1055, while present Vogul more or less lost them as well as present Magyar.
Really it seems that this loss took 4 steps:
Oth step: Short
end-vowels of 2nd syllable can have any degree of highness. We cannot verify
this step from any record, but surely it existed, and maybe it is preserved in
the Magyar Accusative: uta-t, helye-t; or in such forms as vére-s, where the
"e" is middle degree of opening, as "o" is [19].
1st step: Short vowels at
the end are always high (but
full-fledged). That is similar to the present status of Finnish, but the change
of the second vowel in the conjugation shows that in some words the original
quality was not high: "käszi" but in Gen.
"käden"="hand"="kéz" (Magy.), "veszi"
but "veden"="water"="víz" (Hung.) &c., but:
"laszi, laszin"="glass", "leikki, leikkin"="play".
That may have been the Magyar state
in 1055, but see also the next step.
2nd step: Short
end-vowels are not only high, but also ultra-short; they start to vanish. This
may or may not have been the Magyar stage of evolution in 1055; but surely it
was reached in 1216, when the Regestrum Varadiensis [17] gives all the
nominatives of proper names without the high vowels: Tunc, Legyn, Gyan; but the
Accusatives still may contain the high vowel: Isepu-t, Egidu-t, Tadeusu-t. (In
2004 the Accusatives are: Izsép-e-t, Egyed-e-t, but Tádeus-t.)
3rd step: The short high
vowels are neither heard nor written anymore. This is surely so in Magyar since
1300.
Now, Vogul is also at
Step 3, which is not a problem at all. In the Uralic scenario Vogul has at
least 2000 years of independent evolution and could have reached Step 3 any
times before 1800.
However the problem is
that Hun seems to be at Step 1 or 2 already in 500. Examples are:
N° |
Word |
Hun 500 AD |
Magyar 1055 |
Magyar 2004 |
1 |
hand |
kezi |
kezi? |
kéz |
2 |
heart |
szerti |
? |
szív |
3 |
blood |
veri |
veri? |
vér |
4 |
red |
verisi |
? |
véres |
5 |
water |
vezi |
? |
víz |
6 |
way |
utu |
utu |
út |
7 |
bow |
viju |
? |
íj |
8 |
arid |
sziki |
székü |
szik- |
Table 6: On the evolution of
final high vowels.
We can see no great difference between the Hun evolutionary degree in
500 and the Magyar one in 1055, in spite of the 550 years between. The only possible
evidence for Step 1 for the Huns would be Row 7, but the argumentation is
complicated and not too stable. Let us, however, see.
Modern Magyar
"íj" (bow) is back for quality in Vowel Harmony, although the
orthography does not distinguish here: "my bow" is "íjam", not "íjem", and "from bow" is
"íjról", not "íjrôl". Let us assume that this was
the original quality as well. Then probably in Step 2 already the reduced final
vowel was automatic, so it would have been "*íjď". Now, as told earlier,
Armenian does not write "ď" at all, so we would not expect "viju" in Step 2. So if we see “viju”…
However there were
unproven assumptions, and the 4th column may be Step 1 as well. The difference of
Columns 3 & 4 is definitely not much in 550 years. It seems as if the
language represented in [3] would result in 1055 in much more
"modern" forms for the end-vowels.
And note that the Hun
words do not show 2 other Magyar features as well. As was already mentioned,
Magyar and Perm Finns, in spite of the numerous Magyar-Ob Ugor and Perm
Finns-Other Finns similarities, agree in 3 features (in which they differ from
other Finns & Ugors), namely:
1) existence of voiced-unvoiced consonantal oppositions;
2) the "-ni" ending of Infinitive
(it is indeed –nü in Permian, but a high vowel anyways, and the two suffices
are homologous, both evolved from Lative
constructions);
3) the -VlVm deverbal nominative ending.
Now, Hun agrees with
Perm Finns and Magyar in Point 1), but does not exhibit Points 2) & 3)!. Ref. [3] gives the "-in" Infinitive ending, and
does not give any "-alom/-elem" (or even -VlVm") deverbal
nominative ending. Look: "szerelem"
is "szirünild" in [3] and "diadalm-as" (from an original "diadalom") is translated as "dievild". (Go back to Ą3.)
The nature and details
of proto-Magyar and proto-Permian connections are rather obscure,
still, the results show that the Hun-Permian interaction was weaker than the
Magyar-Permian one.
Finally observe the
divergent evolution of "I can do" expressions resulting in the mirror
meanings but quite different constructions:
English |
Hun |
Magyar |
You can drink |
Hetitekh hümin |
Ihattok |
From evolutionary
viewpoint nothing at all suggests that Hun was an intermediary phase of an
evolution ending in Magyar! Rather, it seems that [3] implies a language
similar to Magyar (if at all) which expired sometimes between 700 and 1990. Now,
we do know about a splinter group of proto-Magyars: the Savard Magyars detaching
themselves from the main body and crossing the
13. ON SCENARIOS
In present years it is
quite usual to tell that Schleicher's Stammbaumtheorie belongs to the XIXth
century and is not valid. Sure, it cannot be Absolute Truth (argument is
coming). However it is simple; and there is no better up to now.
"Stammbaum" is "family tree" or "evolutionary
tree"; but we should be careful, what is a tree.
The trees around us
are tree-sized specimens of Gymnosperms and Angiosperms. Their branching is
monopodial: there is a main branch, from which secondary branches emerge. It
seems that even tree-sized ferns follow this pattern.
However, the first
trees in Late Paleozoic showed two other branching patterns. The biggest trees
of Late Palaeozoic were lycopsids & horsetails, the first group with
dichotomous branching, the second with verticillate one [24], [25], [26], [27].
Now, monopodial, dichotomous and verticillate linguistic trees would differ a
lot.
A verticillate Stammbaum
would show a language keeping its identity but at some "convulsions"
(e.g. at migrations) emanating more than one daughter languages. Nobody ever
suggested seriously such a linguistic tree, although Latin, the language of the
Western half of the
In XIXth and early
XXth century the monopodial trees were popular; also in biology. Man descended
from Apes. Remote languages retained more or less the Ur-language. Or: the
nation of the researcher kept the language in its purity. Or: Sanskrit is quite
close to the original Indo-Germanic language.
Now Cladistics prefers
the dichotomous branching. There is a species. Evolution destroys that species
and creates two daughter species instead, and so for infinity. Language A forks into B & C. Then B forks into D &
E, and somewhat later C also forks into F & G; at that moment we have A, E,
F & G...
Try to describe
Latin's decay and emergence of Neo-Latin languages in a dichotomous Stammbaum.
Then you should find a first language detaching itself from the Imperial Unity.
Westerners would tell Roumanian in 270 AD; however it is clear from Theophylactus'
& Theophanes’ records of "torna, torna, frater" [28], [29] that
this "proto-Roumanian" was uttered South of the Haemus (Balkan)
Mountains, in Province Haemimontus, well within the Eastern Empire. Of course, that evolution might have led to Roumanian,
because Roumanian formed South of the
OK, modern linguistics
knows 10 Neo-Latin languages (one of them expired in 1898, when Tuone Udina
Burbur died, but ample records remained). OK, the first Neo-Latin written text
is the Strassburg Oath of King Louis the German in Old French language from
L -> (F,L')
Then in 960 the Placito di Capua is recorded: birth of Italian.
L' -> (I,L")
and so on.
But this would be
nonsense. The Late Vulgar Latin in
The second important
point (where linguistic evolution is not a Stammbaum,
or any Baum either) is hybridisation. Branches of a tree do not unite. There is
an irreversible nature of branching: the number of branches
increase at any forking.
For biological
evolution it seems as if hybridisation were impossible, so biological evolution
is drawn as a Stammbaum. This is correct now;
but some billion years ago it was not. You may remember Lynn Margulis'
endosymbiont theory [30], and you can see several old hybridisations in Ref. [31].
Even the mitochondria in us and the chloroplasts in plants were in ancient
times separate organisms, and even now they are autonomous with their own
genetical information & reproduction; in strict sense you cannot draw a
Stammbaum with tree-like branches for the kingdoms of biology since the
"body" of a plant has a kinship quite different from that of the
chloroplasts. Chloroplasts are close kins of blue-green algae. It turns out
that the fundamental barrier to hybridisation is now the double cell wall of
eucaryotes.
Languages can
hybridise, although full hybridisation is rather rare. An idea is that the
problem of the classification of Japanese comes from a hybridisation story:
e.g. Northern, Altaic, horseriders and Southern, e.g. Austro-Asian
agriculturists met [32] in
English is another
example. The two parents, Anglo-Saxon & Norman French are both Kentum
Indo-European, but the sub-families of them, German & Italoceltic, are not
too close to each other. Still, you may believe that you could detect a
linguistic hybridisation in the past. When Anglo-Saxon & Norman French
hybridised, the synthetic grammar decayed to next to nothing. Modern English
has a synthetic Sg3 Paes. verbal form
("asks"), a synthetic weak Praeterite ("asked"), a
synthetic weak Part. Pass. (again "asked"),
a synthetic Saxon Genitive of nouns ("Queen's"), a twin synthetic
suffix (nobly, noble), and practically nothing more. Otherwise English is
isolating, grammar is expressed via word order & such. Anglo-Saxon &
Norman French pidginised, went down almost to word roots before hybridising.
This can be detected even after 900 years, so if we detect this, we may conjecture
hybrid origin. Otherwise we do not have any reason to conjecture, so we can
draw nice, simple trees. Of course, languages do influence each other, but
borrowed words only colour the picture and grammatical tools are hard to be
borrowed.
Now I draw a somewhat
simplified Stammbaum for Uralic languages. See [20]:
U (
Forking 1 (-4000)
Finno-Ugric (FU) Samoiedic (S)
Forking 2: (-2000) FU into
Fenno-Volgan-Permian (FVP) Ugric (U)
(we
do not follow Samoiedic)
Forking 3: (-1500) FVP into
Fenno-Volgan (FV) Permian (P)
Forking 4: (-800) FV into
Common Finnish (CF) Volgan Finnish (VF)
Forking 5: (-500) Ugric into
Magyar (M)
Table 7: A consensus tree of
Uralic languages
Henceforth I only give
the final results. CF resulted in : Finn, Karjalan,
Inkeri, Vepse, Votic, Estonian, Liv and Lapponian (Lapponian is somewhat
anomalous). Volgan Finnish resulteed in: Cheremys & Mordvin). Permian (Finnish) resulted in Komi & Udmurt (or Züryen &
Votyak). Ob Ugors resulted in: Vogul & Ostyak (or Man'shi &
Khanti). And Magyar did not fork since Forking 5, or at least there is no other
living language on the Western side of Forking 5.
This is a Stammbaum
liked in
Pair |
Distance |
CF - VF: |
1D |
CF - P: |
2D |
CF - M: |
4D |
CF - OU: |
4D |
VF - P: |
2D |
VF - M: |
4D |
VF - OU: |
4D |
P - M: |
3D |
P - OU: |
3D |
M - OU: |
1D |
Table 8: Distances within
the Finno-Ugric groups. Very approximative cladistic numbers,
based on the tree of Table 7. 1D is somewhat bigger than between sister
languages, it is established in cca. 1500 years.
I do not know if these distances meet linguists' common opinion or not;
but any cladist would agree with them in first approach, if the Stammbaum is good.
As for the times of
the forkings, the matter is far from trivial. But archaeology can be used with
some caution, and borrowed words can be used for dating too, in both
directions. Ref. [20] gives some data and they are written at the forkings.
Very substantial ± errors should be expected there.
If this evolutionary
tree is true, then between Permian (Finnish), the Easternmost Finnish, and
Magyar, the Westernmost Ugric, the distance is big, in spite of being neighbours,
because the last common ancestor was Finno-Ugric, 4000 years ago. Analogy:
although German & French are neighbours at the
As for Magyar and Hun
(anything this latter be amongst Altaics), Cladistics + linguistic common
opinion would suggest the following. Surely, Uralic & Altaic are kins [32],
maybe sister families. The agglutination is common, the Vowel Harmony can be
found in all Altaic and some Uralic languages (including the 2 biggest Uralic
ones), and Collinder collected 69 common words in the proto-languages. However the common parent language could
not have forked into Uralic & Altaic after -5000, so between any present
Uralic & Altaic pair the distance must be cca. 10D; far
enough.
And now let us see
first the scenario suggested by the best evolutionary tree for the formation of
Magyar.
There was a Forking 0
resulting in Uralic and Altaic. Then came the Forkings
of Table 7. Some archaeologists believe that not much after Forking 2 they
recognise Ugors as one half of the Andronovo culture; and the other half is
Iranian, (see e.g. [33].) Until Forking 5 the Ugors live together, but not too
compactly, and proto-Magyars are the Southerners (or Southwesterners). After
Forking 5 proto-Magyar separated and started its individual life, surely in a
generally Southern migration. Unfortunately there are no mentions of Magyars
for the next 1300 years. Just after Forking 5 there is a very uncertain spoor:
in the neighbourhood of
The Ob Ugric results
of Forking 5 left clearer remnants, Ust’-Poluy culture from the Ob Valley is a
mixture of Arctic autochtones (Samoieds?) and (relatively) Southern horsemen [34].
Note that the eponymic site at Ust’-Poluy comes from 5th-3rd
c. BC, and it is very Arctic, near to
After
But now we have to
fill in the story between 500 BC and 463 AD. From this period we know only the
linguists' statements about various Iranian horseriders' words and about the
individual life of Magyar. Maybe some proto-Turkish tribe was in the
neighbourhood too, because 3 Turkish words (for "swan",
"beaver" and "word") are common with Ob Ugors, but we
cannot identify that tribe and maybe it was not too strong. Maybe in some part
of that millenium proto-Magyars were just neighbours of Permians and influenced
each other; but the two languages were already at 3D distances, unintelligible
without heavy learning. (Now a Magyar is quite lost in
We do not know! It is the consensus of Magyar historians that there
is no genuine Magyar tradition about the Huns. My tribe knows otherwise, but my
tribe can be Bulgarian Turkish quite well. Some Magyar historians admit that
the ruling clan of the Magyars might have come from the Hunnish federation, so
the rulers might have had some tradition, but not the people. Others admit that
some tradition migh have diffused from the Bulgarian Turks, but centuries
later. But no genuine, original Magyar tradition.
Surely, had Huns
teared the Supreme Shaman of Magyars into pieces, there would be a tradition
about. However this in itself does not prove that Magyars and Huns avoided each
other about 340. We do know (from Pawstos Buzand) why the Huns teared Grigoris, Katholikos of Armenia, into pieces. He spoke long about
the virtue of self-abstaining (either from women, or from drinking or from
eating; surely from all). Now, Magyars quite might have been horseriders
inferior to Huns in 340; but the shamans of even inferior horseriders would not
speak about such nonsense, and then they are not harmed substantially. Maybe
Magyars (on horseback) made a wide detour (but whither? you cannot go too far
North on horseback); maybe they submitted to the Huns, or maybe they were taken
as parts of the army. After that they either herded the Hunnish animals, or
guarded the Northern borders or went to the West. (As I told, Hungarian
historians tell that they cannot detect any tradition about.)
Then the main body of
Huns returned to the East. If Magyars
did not go West, they may or may not have met the
retreating Huns at the
Then in a few years
starts the second wave of migration recorded by Priscus Rhetor; the Bulgarian
Turks are on the move, and until today Magyar tradition clearly remembers
Bulgars at the Maeotis. (Hunor and Magor take the daughters of Kings Dul &
Belar. Belar is Bulgar according to anybody; Dul is either
Dulo, the ruling clan of the Bulgars, or a Dula clan of Alans.)
Henceforth a strange Magyar-Bulgar (or Magyar-Onogur) symbiosis starts. Ugric
Magyars lead a confederation whose
majority is Bulgar Turk (at least this is true for tribe names), Ugric Magyar
takes hundreds of Turkish words from Bulgarians, and in spite of this the Magyar language does not pidginise.
I guess, why not; but
this is still not usual. The old Turkish loanwords came into Magyar in their
root forms, SgNom for nouns and Sg3 Praes for verbs. It is Pure Root in both
languages. But then the Magyar speaker could use any Turkish root as a Magyar
root. I tell an example from Modern Magyar & Ottoman Turkish. No doubt, the
example itself happened many times between 1541 & 1686, when Ottoman Turks
occupied some half of
You are speaking with
somebody, and you want to be polite. Not deferential, but polite. Then you
start with "Sir". Now, as a polite title, it is approximately "
Of course, we cannot
start a Magyar sentence (or a Turkish, either) with the mirror translation of
"Sir"; that would be rather ungrammatical. You must use the
construction "My Sir" (see "Milord" for analogy, or
"Monsieur" from French). Then let us see the mirror translations:
(My) Sir (E) = Uram (M) =
Efendim (T)
Even the Sg1 possessive suffix is the same! But the similarity of
suffices is not important, see Pl1:
Our Sir = Urunk = Efendimiz
Now imagine that, e.g. for fashion, one wants to use "efendi"
instead of "úr". No problem. He can put the Magyar possessive
suffices at the end of the Turkish word, and gets a Magyar construction proper
in any Magyar sentence. Indeed, "efendi" was borrowed, but with a
geminated "ff", resulting in "effendim, effendink", &c.
You may fill up half of the Magyar vocabulary with Turkish verbs, nouns or
adjectives, and all the Magyar synthetic constructions continue to work.
There is e.g. a
triplet in the Magyar vocabulary for: military/police officer = tiszt = csôsz =
csausz
The first is originally German, the second is originally Kipchak/Kumyk
(or Petcheneg), the third is Ottoman Turkish; the Ugric word is not used today.
Just now "csôsz" is a surveyor of parks, playing fields & so, and
"csausz" is used only in Ottoman Turkish and historical contexts. If
you want to add some suffix, let us take e.g.
from the officer = a
tiszttôl = a csôsztôl = a csausztól
you can see the Vowel Harmony in work
independently of the origin of the root. Similarly, Turkish "basď" =
"head, leader". "Yüzbasď" is "Captain", but in
mirror translation "head of hundred", "onbasď" is
"head of ten" and so on. Now in occupied Hungarian cities the head of
(military) administration was a "basď”; Magyar imported the word as
"basa" (no "ď" in the Magyar system and back vowel was
needed) and used without problems as "influential and rich Turk".
An interesting verb is
"öl"="he dies" (in Turkish). In Magyar, however,
"öl" is "he kills". "He dies" there is
"hal" (Vogul "hóli"). There might have been some
complication or misunderstanding; but no grammatical problem.
"Blue"="kök" (T)="kék"
(M), and "yellow" = "sarď" (T) = "sárga" (M). I
simply do not know what were the words before the r-Turkish
connection: in Finnish "blue"="sininen", but that is
clearly Russian. In Vogul "blue" is "atörhari" but that is
unintelligible for a Magyar, of course.
I stop here with
Uralic & Altaic comparison. The essence is: Magyar is full with Altaic
words, but that fact never disturbed anybody. I do not know how to detect if
Magyar took half of its word roots from an unknown agglutinating language but I
am sure the only trace would be lots of words without any etymology. Magyar
easily hybridise. It can take Latin words too, but for Latin verbs Magyar puts
some formative suffix to the root ("concurs"="konkurrál", and then this will be the
Magyar root"), and then you see that the word was borrowed from somewhere;
but not from Turkish. Now, you cannot be sure that you know about all
agglutinating languages in the neighbourhood bw. 500 BC and 463 AD (including extinct ones).
In 551 Turks defeated
the Avars in the
Then there start
troubles in Avaria. A new wave arrives around 680. The direction is roughly the
(feet of the)
So the newcomers of
the
But might have some
Magyars come with the Bulgarians in 680? The symbiosis probably still went on,
so they easily might. Indeed, it would be hard to see how not (not why not).
But observe that no Magyars were detected in
So where are the
Magyars from 680? Some may be in the
Western sources cannot
be used too much. A few synchronous sources mention Huns or Hungarians; the
first can well be archaism, the second can be Onogurs. The sources never mention Magyars, and do not
mention clearly (proto-)Magyar personal or place
names. However even during Xth century Magyar chiefs will have Turkish names.
But Westerners do not
observe even the great emigration wave in 680. For them the
Then in 860 King Louis
the German of the Eastern Franks issues a donation letter to the Melk monastery
(in present
But please do not
conclude that the "Vangari" are (proto)-Magyars. They may have been.
But they may have been Onogurs either. Or even Slovakians living in Onogurian
lands. The most probable interpretation is "some Onogurs", so badly
defined Bulgarian Turks. They may or may not have their friends and stepbrothers,
Magyars, with them. Even it is possible that Louis the German calls Magyars as
Onogurs. Linguists should look after proto-Magyar names in the Basin. They
look, indeed, and the result is eqivocal.
However the situation
is not much better even outside the Basin. Nobody records Magyars on the
Eurasian steppe, until 870. Then a Persian statesman called Jayhani recorded
something in his book Kitab al-mamalik va’l-masalik [37]; this book is lost,
but other travellers copied/modified the text, and now we are interpreting the
final results. Anyways, Gardizi & Ibn Rusta (Zayn
al-akhbar –t) write [38], [39] (maybe after Jayhani) that the Khazarians
erected fortresses against the Magyars. (Sometimes they write something
M.j.f.r, which is maybe a pen error instead of M.j.gh.r, sometimes rather B.sh.gh.r;
the latter may be Baskhirians, maybe misspelled Majars~Magyars, maybe a third
nation. Who knows?) But in the Magyar tradition there is both alliance and
enmity with the Khazarians. So then the fortress of Sarkel was built about 830
against Magyars; but note that Sarkel is not too far from
Khalikova believed
that the Bolshie Tigani group had been Magyars, ancestors of the Conquerors of
the
As for the name Hun,
[3] gives the translation "chun"="man". Now, if one is
fanatic, he can interpret this in the Uralic paradigm, either as "man,
male" = "hím" (Magyar), "chum" (Vogul), or as
"host, army" = "had" (Magyar), "chant" (Vogul),
"kant" (Ostyak), "konydä" (Mordvin), "kunta"
(Finnish). Identification is not impossible, but it is better to try to stop
sooner or later.
And then comes the last act (so far). In
In more 104 years the
direct descendant of Prince Árpád, Vajk (the name is Turkish) takes the name
Stephen (István, Stefán &c.), gets a crown from Pope Sylvester II, and
founds the Apostolic Kingdom of Hungary. In more 55 years we have the
foundation letter of the Tihany Abbey, and look: in 86 isolates there are good
and genuine Magyar words there. No other languages than Latin & Magyar. Of
course there are words of Turkish & Slavic origins among these Magyar words: but then what? There are words of
Turkish & Slavic origins in the
Magyar language in 2004 too, and it is neither Turkish nor Slavic language but
Magyar. So no problem after 1055.
14. EXCURSUS: HOW OLD IS
HOMINISATION?
I told a story in the
previous Chapter. A story leading to present Magyars.
This is the most elaborated scenario, and also most accepted in scholarly
circles. However the story is rather awkward at some points, e.g. there is a
millenium gap in it. Also, the words of the Vocabulary of
Refs. [2] & [3] are rather against the story. And the story does not
explain at all the "pecularities" of Magyar history.
Look, Magyar history
(between mid-1st millenium and 1000 AD; at that Christmas Magyar history merged
with others, and is now a part of Hungarian history; bene docet qui bene
distinguit) was a story of success, without explanations up to now. A
hunter-gatherer + fisher community detaches itself from other hunter-gatherers.
Both groups have horses, but no cattle, no sheep, no agriculture. You can live
without cattle & corn; you can live well even; but you cannot go then to
the mild South, where populous neighbours defeat you in one battle and take
your lands. Now the Ob Ugor brothers are 25,000.
And a handful of
Manychars (this is the archaic form) did just this. At the subtropic 50th
parallel about 500 BC there roamed the lords of the grasslands: the various
tribal alliances of North Iranian Scythes and Sarmathians. There were somewhere
in the neighbourhood also some Old Turks (see, the words, "word",
"swan" & "beaver" were spoken near to Ugors), but they may not have evolved further
than the Manychars. (The knowledge of "swan" & "beaver"
does not prove economic & military excellence.)
And then we do not
have any idea where Manychars went for a millenium. We know that they
interacted with horserider Iranians. At the end of that millenium they had
already cattle and sheep. They maintained a full horserider way of life
somewhere on the borderless Eurasian grassland. But they kept their Eastern
Uralian language. By other words, they were not assimilated and not subjugated
on the borderless grassland where slightly better horseriders win in a single
battle.
And then, maybe from
Vth century, proto-Magyars learn agriculture from Bulgarian Turks. (The words
are Bulgarian Turk in Magyar.) In this time already the Turks were the lords of
the grasslands. The Huns may or may not have been Turks (they may have been
also proto-Mongols or an undifferentiated stock between Turks and Mongols as
well), but ignoring them I could list here dozens of r-Turks and z-Turks
roaming there. Bulgarian Turks were abundant on the grasslands in the V-VIIIth
centuries; and Magyars were the only ones with Uralic words for Body Parts,
Numerals & Horses.
And still in 2004 the
only Bulgarian Turks are 2 million (the
But how? We have not got any
answer to this question. But we should. What is the use of a history not
explaining the most important events
of Past? (Sorry, for a Magyar this question is more important than the
discussion of the success of Alexander the Great. First, because when his
father Philip started the anti-Persian campaign, the Western forces were better
equipped, the society & economy behind was more versatile; the only
shortcoming was the less population. Even without Alexander's genius the defeat
of the
Now, this excursion is
not the answer. It is not even an analogy. It will simply demonstrate that in
some cases the confusion originates from the wrong classification.
Look; I avoided the
worst misclassification. I do know that Hungarian and Magyar are not synonymes,
and I must confess that I learnt this indirectly from Slovakian (a parent of
mine had some Slovakian schooling). Accordingly in 1992, particle physicist
Pisút, Minister of Education of Slovakia, suggested the introduction of a new
term into Magyar and was totally refused...
But there may be other
misclassifications as well. We speak about Huns but we do not know the language
of Huns. We speak about Avars but we do not know the language of the Avars. The
Late Avars (from 680 upwards) were almost surely different from the Early
Avars. Did Bulgarian Turks immigrate into the
And: were Huns utterly
defeated in the
Now comes
the example of wrong classification. The respective classification was
definitely wrong; it is now proven. It did not touch such sensitive points as
national pride; it touched something more
sensitive: humanity itself.
If one does not accept
biological evolution, he may jump to the next Chapter. But he does not have to;
the case is interesting even for creationists.
What is/was hominisation?
It was an august process leading from (brute? soulless? mindless? simple?
anybody can use the most proper adjective) animals to (again some adjective)
Homo, the top of the Evolution (so far). The last step of hominisation was of
course separating Homo from Pongidae. When did this happen?
Until the 80's the
answer went in the following steps. First there was the improved Linnean
taxonomy. In it both Man and the Great Apes were in the Superfamilia Hominoidea,
but the Hominoidea superfamilia divided to 3 Familiae: Hylobatidae
(gibbons), Pongidae (great apes) and
Hominidae (man). Familia Pongidae
contained 8 genera, of which 3 was
extant, Pongo, Gorilla & Pan
(orang, gorilla & chimpanzee). In contrast, Familia Hominidae
contained 3 genera, Ramapithecus, Australopithecus & Homo, of which one species of genus
Homo is extant, Homo sapiens [42].
Now, hominization is a
process (in taxonomic language) in which something having a name manufactured
from the Latin word Homo became existent. Then palaeontology would tell, when.
But on what taxonomic
level should humaneness be reached? Obviously the Superfamilia Hominoidea is
not enough. We should not call a process hominisation
if it ends in a gibbon. Familia
Hominida was already something, but generally to develop into Genus Homo was
considered crossing the Rubicon.
Now, several Pliocene
& Miocene fossils were classified Pongidae rather than Hominidae, on the
grounds of quadrupedalism & dentition. The family Pongidae seemed to have
existed 15-20 My ago, so then Hominida too. As for
Genus Homo some 2-3 My past was estimated.
Obviously (continued
the argumentation), the 3 Pongidae sister genera, Pongo, Pan & Gorilla are
much nearer to each other than to Homo. The last common ancestor of all of them
lived 15-20 My ago, while the common ancestor of the 3
living pongids may have lived 7-8 My ago in the Dark Ages without fossils. So
European dryopithecids 10 My ago may still have been
undifferentiated pongids, or (since Pongo is rather divergent) at least common
ancestors of chimpanzee & gorilla.
There was a single
observation contradicting this picture: Sarich & Wilson studied
antibody/antiserum reactions of bloods. Via such reactions indices of some
biochemical dissimilarity can be measured. Table 9 shows these indices [43].
Sp. of albumin |
Homo antiserum |
Pan antiserum |
Hylobates antiserum |
Homo sapiens |
1.00 |
1.09 |
1.29 |
Pan trogdolytes |
1.14 |
1.00 |
1.40 |
Pan paniscus |
1.14 |
1.00 |
1.40 |
Gorilla gorilla |
1.09 |
1.17 |
1.31 |
Pongo pygmaeus |
1.22 |
1.24 |
1.29 |
Symphalangus syndactylus |
1.30 |
1.25 |
1.07 |
Hylobates lar |
1.28 |
1.25 |
1.00 |
Table 9: Some
dissimilarity indices among apes & man [43].
The index is exactly 1 if the bloods are identical on species level.
While for untutored eye the Table is harmless enough, the numbers indicated
that Pongo is disjoint from the
group {Homo, Pan, Gorilla}, while on
anatomic grounds Homo should oppose
the group {Pongo, Pan, Gorilla}
(Hominids vs. Pongids). Sarich & Wilson guessed the divergence times on the
grounds of immunologic dissimilarities, and the result was:
Common ancestor of |
Time, My |
Old Word monkeys/apes |
30 |
Man & All Apes |
10 |
Great Apes & Man |
8 |
Man, Chimp & Gorilla |
5 |
All Gibbons |
4 |
Table 10: Divergence times
from immunology [43].
And this result was
surprising enough. It told a quite new story. That there was a common stock of
Man & Great Apes until 8 million years ago, and then the ancestors of the
orang detached first. Then for 3 more million years a common stock of African
apes & man lived, and then this stock trifurcated.
By other words, Sarich & Wilson told that bloods behave as if Man, Chimp
& Gorilla were closer to each other than any to Orang.
OK, this was a single
datum. Maybe we would understand it later. But this result excited other
biologists, and in 1975 King & Wilson repeated the
study for dozens of alleles [44]. From allele frequencies a genetic distance can be calculated. The
result was again surprising: the distance, which is routinely normalised to
cca. 1 for sister species, was 0.62 between man & chimpanzee. As usual for twin species, pairs of non-hybridizing ones
which however, cannot be told apart by classical criteria. In 1978 Bruce
& Ayala got even smaller distances [45].
Then evolutionists
became excited, and revisited the similarities among man, chimp, gorilla &
orang. They found [46] that indeed Pongo stands apart. A quite recent study [47]
gives the following data for times when the human line detached itself from the
respective ancestors of living apes:
Ape |
Divergence time, My |
Standard error, My |
Chimpanzee |
5.41 |
0.55 |
Gorilla |
6.41 |
0.74 |
Orang |
11.29 |
0.68 |
Gibbon |
14.94 |
1.01 |
Table 11: Divergence times,
2001
So Familia Pongidae
contains only Pongo + extinct relatives. But then Pan &
Gorilla must be transferred into Familia Hominidae! Pongo keeps the long
separation period; indeed Pongidae are far, “only” Pan &
Gorilla do not classify together with him. But what is hominisation in the new paradigm?
If the man-chimpanzee
distance is such than for sister species
or even smaller, then, in addition, chimps could not be classified into their own Genus. This step was the hardest,
but now I can refer to [48], where the taxonomy is as follows:
Familia Hominidae
contains Subfamilia Homininae. This latter divides into 2 Tribes: Hylobatini
& Hominini. Tribus Hominini consists of 2 Subtribes: Pongina &
Hominina. And Subtribus Hominina divides into 2 Genera: Gorilla & Homo.
True, Genus Homo contains 2 Subgenera; but in first approximation subgenera can
be forgotten. Namely classical Linnean names are Genus (with capital initial) +
species (small letters) So man is Homo sapiens, common chimp is Homo
trogdolytes and pygmy chimp
is Homo paniscus. Is an evolutionary process, then, hominisation if it ends in Homo paniscus?
But confusion in Latin
does not mean confusion in facts. I give a full Table of distances. These
distances are percent distances in the DNA: simply the percentages of different
base pairs.
- |
Human |
Chimp |
Gorilla |
Orang |
Monkeys (OW) |
Human |
0 |
0.87 |
1.04 |
2.18 |
3.76 |
Chimp |
0.87 |
0 |
0.99 |
2.14 |
3.76 |
Gorilla |
1.04 |
0.99 |
0 |
2.25 |
3.99 |
Orang |
2.18 |
2.14 |
2.25 |
0 |
3.83 |
Monkeys (OW) |
3.76 |
3.76 |
3.99 |
3.83 |
0 |
Table 12:
Percentage differences in DNA among some Primates, according to Ref. [48]. Between any ape
& mouse the value is cca. 40.
Divergence times were
also calculated between any pair [48]. So I could answer the question about the
hominisation process, if you defined what
is homidisation.
As you see, the meaning is far from being trivial; it is rather paradigm-dependent. And if you form
inhomogeneous groups, distances, divergence times &c. will be mere
artefacts.
Now, Ref. [3] is not a
linguistic monograph, but a painting-book.
Also, it is not a historic monograph, so it leaves us ignorant about the origin
& migration of Daghestan (Belendjer) Huns. So, in contrast to
palaeoanthropology, where, from morphology, we did have a classification, a
priori one with respect to divergence times, although later it turned out to be wrong, now we must operate
paradigm-independently.
I demonstrate. Is
"üker"="ox" in the Hun Dictionary [3] a (Bulgarian) Turkish
word, or not? Detre tells that words of explicitly
Turkish origin are rare in the Dictionary. I, in contrary, can detect a lot of
tem. My definition for an explicitly
Turkish Hunnish word is
that it should be found in Turkish languages but not in Uralic
ones, of course ignoring Magyar and the Ob Ugors. The word "üker" is
such. It is "öküz" in Ottoman Turkish (which is z-Turk), "vokor"
in
And be careful. There are words either coming from the common
ancestor of Uralic and Altaic, or being very old borrowings. "Mother"
is "maja" in the Hunnish Dictionary, but it was "emä" in
both proto-Uralic and in proto-Turkish [32]. And "stock" (of a plant)
is "tüvi" in [3], but the corresponding word is "tünge" in
both proto-Uralic and in proto-Altaic.
Now palaeontology
begins to fill in the gap of the Dark Ages of Hominisation between 4 & 8 My; e.g. an Ardipithecus remnant is estimated to cca. 5.5 My
[49], and Orrorin tugenensis is cca. 6 My [50]. In contrary, the lack of
archaeological finds connected with proto-Magyars between Vth c. BC and Vth c.
AD remains complete.
15. MIGRATION FROM WEST?
This will be a
desperate Chapter. But we do not understand the situation, so I must cover even
improbable scenarios. So: is it possible that Belendjer Huns carried their
Magyar-like words from the West?
Belendjer Huns' origin
is far from being fully clarified, but very probably they arrived at Daghestan
after a West-East migration. In 454 they must have been in the
In contrast, we do not
know about tribes emigrating to the East either during the Avar troubles around
630 & 680, or at the end of independent Avaria, in 795-803. The Fredegarius
Codex writes about emigration to
Even if Magyars'
wandering on the Eurasian grasslands is rather obscure until now for us, surely
the last steps are recorded. In 948 a Magyar embassy went to
The usual Magyar
interpretation is "the territory between 2 (big) rivers", and then
rivers are selected according to theory, but clearly the area is adjacent with
the Carpathians, on the East, because the Conquest starts with crossing the
The usual interpretation
starts with reading the Porphyrogenetus
in Magyar: Atelkuzu ≈ Etelköz ≈ (a 2) Etel között = between the
2 Etels, “Etel" is of course "Etil" which is
But this reading is
impossible. Then the Porphyrogenetus would not have written "κουζου".
In Greek "u" is written with the digraph "ου",
while "ü" is a single letter "υ". Had the Emperor
heard front vowels "küzü", he simply would have written " κυζυ". In the text once he
writes even "Atel & Kuzu". So Kuzu is a river. It is not clear,
which one; but clearly the Dnieper-Bug-Dniester-Prut-Seret area is meant.
Indeed when the Emperor goes into details, he names exactly five rivers, and some of them are
recognisable. And near to
The Porphyrogenetus
recorded the previous Magyar lands too, called Lebedüa. According to him, the
river of this land is the Khingilos/Khidmas. Now, various Hungarian historians suggested
emendations for both names. According to them, Khidmas would be a right-hand
tributary of River Bug, the Kodďma, while the Khingilos is a left-side tributary,
the Ingul; the two confluences are near to each other.
Consequently in the
IXth century Magyars moved from East to West. Of course, earlier they might
have moved in any direction; we simply do not yet know.
By the way, the Porphyrogenetus
tells that sometimes earlier the Magyars forked; one part went to the borders of Persia, and
they were then called σαβαρτοι
ασφαλοι. Nobody exactly knows what name is
this; the usual interpretation is "unmovable Sabirs" or something such (but you may even
read here a misunderstood Iranian "asva"="horse", so perhaps "horserider Sabirs".
Czeglédy tried with a
Central Eastern viewpoint, centered in Kazakistan/Eastern Turkestan [56]. In
his narration the Daghestan Huns are first remainders of Balambér’s & Attila’s Huns. Then
Saragurs arrive from the West, but in 466; and in 506 Sabirs (σαβαρτοι?)
from the East, and Balangars (Belendjers?) are Sabirs. There is then Khazarian
overlordship from 557, however with a transient Bulgarian independence in the
first half of VIIth century. Indeed, lots of details are uncertain about
Caucasian Huns. I personally would expect a Bulgarian or r-Turk language, but
the traditions might be Western, Eastern or mixed as well.
16. CONCLUSIONS
But the Hun Dictionary
of Detre [2], [3] comes from 500 or 700 or both. (Two codices and two data are
reported [2], [3].) Cca. half
of the reported words are very similar to Magyar words (also for meaning), the
other half is not. What does this mean?
I do not know. 3
things are sure.
1) Well documented and careful observations
must have precedence to any nice theory.
2) If observed facts clearly contradict the predictions of
existing theories then those theories are wrong and must be substituted by new
ones.
3) However there is a big trouble if we cannot even imagine
the form of the new theory.
Now, to Point 1) I must
state that [2] & [3] are not
well-documented. On the contrary, they are extremely ill-documented, at the end
published in a painting-book. On the
other hand, in [3] two decent scientists state that one of them, together with
a good Armenologist, simply took an Armenian manuscript, collected Hunnish
words from it, and there were Armenian definitions, translations or what
besides them and they took them too. Now, surely Ö. Schütz (sometimes written
as E. Schütz too) was a competent Armenologist and could do this easily. I do
not know the extent of Armenian of Cs. Detre, but I do know that he knows some
Armenian, and surely he knows all the letters. So in any time he can
transliterate any part of an Armenian manuscript. Of course it is not trivial
to read medieval manuscripts, so some errors are possible; but 10 % error would
not help too much about the problems raised by this Hun Dictionary.
Unfortunately Dr. Detre did not publish the rules of transliteration; I guessed
them, but I definitely do not know how consequent they were. However I
understand from [3] that Ö. Schütz took an importrant part in the
transliteration and he was a professional Armenologist. It is meaningless to
ask if these Huns were "really Huns". The Armenians reported Huns from
2) Now, do the facts clearly contradict to the existing and
accepted theories? For simplicity's sake, let us take the Uralic (or
Finno-Ugric) paradigm for "theories". I do not repeat it, because I
argued in the Uralic paradigm throughout this study when I did not state
definitely otherwise.
Not,
they do not contradict clearly.
Mainly, they do not, because the publication is sketchy, we cannot know the
details, and at any point there may be a mistype, misprint or bad reading.
There is another reason too, but that can wait. However this Dictionary poses
difficulties enough for the Uralic paradigm indeed.
3) OK, then take the Turkish paradigm. And now comes
the biggest problem: the Turkish paradigm does not help either.
Let us accept as
working hypothesis that Magyar was originally not an Uralic language, but Turkish. Then obviously Bulgarian r-Turkish. Then very probably the
Ob Ugric languages were also not Uralic either. But they could not have been
Turkish, Altaic roots are very rare in them. No problem. In
So
far so good. But in the Turkish
paradigm Magyar is originally Turkish. Still for body parts, numerals, some
kinship terms & such Magyar has the words whose roots are similar to e.g.
Finnish!
This is possible only
if Finns, Lapponians &c. learnt these fundamental words from Magyars too.
Maybe then Finns were not yet at the Baltic, but surely they were at least
halfway from the
So indeed: the Turkish
paradigm, which at least exists, does not help at all. I cannot imagine the
hopeful third paradigm, and Cs. Detre did not suggest any either.
So I think just now
the only hopeful work would be to produce a clear, detailed and well-documented
critical edition of the texts. But even from the present one it is possible to
draw the conclusion, as I formulated already in Chap. 12, that the language of
[2] & [3] could not have been in the evolutionary chain of languages
leading to present Magyar from anywhere.
In the best case it is a sister language of Magyar, or a half-sister via
hybridisation, and the language is now extinct.
APPENDIX: SCIENTIFIC
EXAMPLES FOR MISLEADING ERRORS
I would like to
recapitulate 2 cases from hard Natural Sciences when respectable scientists got
interesting results via legitimate and correct observational methods. In both
cases the researchers wanted the
actual results and from the beginning it was felt that something was wrong; but
it took a substantial time to disprove the results.
The atmosphere of Mars
Since Galileo it was
clear that Mars has an atmosphere; but the actual surface pressure was unknown.
Science reached the needed accuracy even to hope an answer cca. 100 years ago.
Table 13 shows the results of some measurements [59], [60], [61], [62].
Observer(s) |
Year |
Pressure in Hgmm |
Method |
|
1896 |
87 |
Earth, from terminator |
Menzel |
1926 |
68 |
Earth, telescope |
Lyot |
1929 |
25 |
Earth, polarisation |
Dollfus |
1950 |
87.5 |
Balloon, polarisation |
de Vaucouleurs |
1954 |
87.5 |
Balloon, polarisation |
Schwarzschild |
1962 |
18 |
Balloon, telescope |
Owen & Kuipers |
1964 |
11.5 |
Earth, telescope |
Mariner-4 |
1964 |
8 |
Probe |
Mariner-9 |
1971 |
7 |
Probe |
Table 13: Some
measurements for Martian surface pressure.
The first observations
were, of course, telescopic, from beyond the terrestrial atmosphere. An old
method used the diffuseness of the Martian terminator. It was obvious that
smaller Mars would keep more dilute atmosphere. Now, take for example a
spectroscopic method. Solar light would be absorbed on, say, oxygen two times,
in & out, in the Martian atmosphere, and then one in the terrestrial
atmosphere. If the Martian atmosphere is denser than the half of the
terrestrial one, Martian absorption dominates and the effect is easily
measurable. But it was clear soon that it was not so dense. Then observatories
on high peaks in clear atmosphere were looked for, and then balloons. There was
an ever decreasing tendency; still values 50-100 Hgmm pressure remained for
decades. The values were good for other scientific hopes. With
100 Hgmm pressure fluid water, life &c. are possible, and since
probes were in the imaginable future, everybody could keep the hopes for
extremely important discoveries.
On the other hand,
everybody knew that Mars' escape velocity is only 5 km/s, while the average
velocity of, say, O2 molecules is cca. 0.45 km/s.
While this is clearly smaller than the escape velocity, according to
evaporation & diffusion calculations it was not enough for 4 billion years,
except if very fortunate mechanisms cannot maintain the atmosphere via
volcanoes & such.
Then a terrestrial
measurement gave 15 Hgmm when Mariner-4 was already on the way, and then
Mariner-4 herself on the spot got some 8 Hgmm. Obviously the small pressure was
the difference of two much higher numbers, the measurement of the difference
was not stable, and errors generated the erroneously high values; and the
astronomers hoped for the higher value and maybe helped the errors, of course
not deliberately. They all were good and, of course, honest astronomers. In
physical sciences frauds are unheard of, because the results can be checked by
anyone, so it is hopeless to falsify. This is the reason that I accept the mere
statement of the authors of [3]: one is physicist, one is geologist.
Pluto as asteroid
Flagstaff Observatory
was established and maintained by Percival Lowell for looking for Martian
channels, as signals of intelligent life. At the end of XIXth century that was
conform with the expectations of Science; and
Flagstaff Observatory mapped the channels. However with better and better
telescopes observations were less and less reproducible, so in the 20's it was
less and less chic to merely map channels. In addition, the founder died in
1916, although the Foundation continued. Then the idea came: there was another
favourite idea of
In 1846
The simplest
disturbing factor was one more planet orbiting beyond Uranus, so dimmer, so not
seen yet. Two researchers, independently, calculated where must be the planet
producing just the exact pull to modify Uranus' revolution to the observed one;
they mailed the calculations to 2 astronomers, and one of them found the new
planet very near to the predicted place.
Then in more half a
century some observations indicated minor discrepancies in
The Lowell Foundation
employed a young guy called Tombaugh to photographe the neighbourhood of the
predicted position. Tombaugh observed excellently, improved the technique
originally developed for asteroids and after a substantial time he found
something. OK, it was at 6° distance from the predicted position, a rather big
discrepancy, but maybe that happened because small differences in distance, so
in revolution period can cause position differences linearly growing in time
and then there were already some 30 years since the original calculations. For
the story see [63].
Anyways, the planet
was there as a fact, and its average distance was 38.8 AU, agreeing quite well
with
There was only one
discrepancy between prediction and observation: the brightness. Pluto was
dimmer by some 2.5 magnitudo than Planet X in the prediction. So, probably, it
was smaller; and then there was the danger of a smaller mass too.
Now a planet with 0.2
terrestrial mass simply could not generate observable disturbances on
For 1940 the problem
was clear; the solution was not. An idea was an extremely dark surface, but
that was highly improbable: at the very low temperature frozen gases were
expected and they reflect quite well. Another desperate idea was an extremely
high density. Then the size is smaller, so also the total reflected light.
Estimations gave 50 g/cm3 density, ten times Earth's one, necessary
to give the observed low brightness. Nobody could imagine the composition of
Pluto giving this density (in normal terrestial environment the densest metal,
extremely rare osmium, is only 22.4 g/cm3). But it
is one thing not to understand something, and it is quite another to doubt facts.
There were, however,
calculations then, having the orbit known, for the mass from the observed
disturbances. That is Table 14.
Disturbed Planet |
Disturbing Mass (Pluto)/Earth |
Jupiter |
11 |
Saturn |
5 |
Uranus |
0.5 |
|
0.5 |
Table 14: Measurements for
Pluto's mass from planetary disturbances in the 30's
So Pluto seemed to disturb
Then, again, somebody
finally was able to get a disk with a big telescope, and got cca. 2400 km diameter. Then the volume is cca. 1/120 terrestrial
volume, and with 5 terrestrial mass the density was already much above 100 g/cm3.
Then D. Alter (
Until
1978, when J. W. Christy started to improve Pluto's orbital data with a 155 cm
telescope. With new evaluating techniques it was possible to improve the
photograph until a moon of Pluto was recognised. So its distance was
measurable. Repeating the photographing several times an orbital period of moon
Charon was measured too, and then Gravity theory directly gave the mass: 0.0023
terrestrial mass. (Density is cca. the one expected for frozen gases.)
So Pluto could not make the disturbances from which its position was predicted and so
being discovered! Then how?
The present answer
seems to be that the disturbances did not exist at all!
Then it turned out
that there is a second asteroid belt from Pluto outwards. Pluto is the biggest
member, but not a major planet at all. Pluto is still on the list of major
planets because of 70 year tradition, but it will be left out sooner or later;
and instead it will go to the asteroid list more than 5000 long and increasing.
Pluto was discovered
because the Lowell Foundation wanted to discover Planet X very much. Maybe for any roughly ecliptical position sooner
or later a member of the second asteroid belt could have been discovered in a neighbourhood of 6°. It is true if
the belt has at least 60 members.
It was known since
1940 that something serious problem
was about Pluto. However it was rather surprising that Planet X was a byproduct
of random errors. But nobody was responsible. Only: maybe in astronomy it is
dangerous to observe something interesting.
If nobody had wanted to find Planet X, Pluto would not have been discovered
instead. But, of course, it is better to discover asteroid Pluto, than nothing
at all.
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