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Welcome to Wikidata, Codename Lisa!

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Best regards! Jon Harald Søby (talk) 15:10, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Codename Lisa/Archive 1 on 2016-01-07.

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Codename Lisa (talkcontribs)

Hi.

Let me start with some background.

There is a concept called threshold of information usefulness. Or maybe threshold of information delivery usefulness. (It is my native tongue and translating it is a bit hard.) For example, people would be very irritated and confused if you introduce them as a "human with two eyes and two ears". They'd rather hear "engineer from CalTech", "president of the Republic of Rearendia" or "front gate security guard", which already imply human. But that was an extreme example. I myself had an experience with a person who lengthened speech a great deal by saying "Now, here, we have two distinct options from which to select/courses of actions" every time a binary choice came along. Giving the choices off the bat was far shorter.

In case of computer programs, "free software" is extremely vague. Is it permissive free (e.g. BSD license), obligatory free (e.g. CC-BY-SA) or obsessively free (GPLv3)? (If you don't know what I am talking about, you might want to read about the "freedom or death" clause of the GPL on Wikipedia and controversies surrounding its use along other software.) Add the fact that most people today still think "free software" is gratis instead of libre.

To deliver information efficiently, it is best to add a genre of software in the "instance of" property and abandon the "freedom" intricacies to the "license" property where it would deliver it accurately, succinctly and without bias.

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Infovarius (talkcontribs)

Which OS do you have? I suspect that page https://windows.microsoft.com/windows-7 dynamically shows different content according to your OS. Because I definitely see help for Windows 7 (I have Windows 7). I can provide a screenshot if you want.

Codename Lisa (talkcontribs)

{{P|P2303}} is not meant to be used at Q items

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D1gggg (talkcontribs)
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Wylve (talkcontribs)

Hi, thank you for adding and editing descriptions to items. But please see Help:Description for guidance on length and formatting (such as no periods/full stops at the end). Descriptions are to disambiguate identically named items, not to define an item so that it is identifiable from all items. Also please refrain from directly copying the lead section from Wikipedias as that is a license violation. Wikidata uses CC-0 while the Wikipedias use CC-BY-SA. Thanks.

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About the official Google Chrome's website

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Wiki layes (talkcontribs)

Well I think google.com/chrome isn't that hard to remeber, and besides, the value is the official website and not a redirect

Codename Lisa (talkcontribs)

Both are official because both are owned by Google. Besides, as a Wikipedian, I hold little value for being official. "chrome.com" is shorter and that's all the value I see.

Wiki layes (talkcontribs)

You made your point, though google.com/chrome is more commonly advertised as google chrome's main website (in search engines results, google chrome's blog, etc) chrome.com does also get you there eventually but can it be considered as google chrome's website ?

Codename Lisa (talkcontribs)

Many years ago, I had this very same discussion with someone who contended that web addresses without www have less value than those with www because www is the client name in an FQDN. Nowadays, nobody even types www anymore.

Also what construes a website is nowadays more a matter of contents and the maintenance teams. Sometimes, different websites are kept under the same domain name and sometimes, the same website spans several domain names.

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הנדב הנכון (talkcontribs)

Why do you want to keep the two site addresses that are actually just one? This is not maintained on other items

Codename Lisa (talkcontribs)

Hi.

They have the same layout but different contents. (One is in French on in English.) So why not?

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compared to your last change on the Wikidata windows 10 .

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Bilal-elha (talkcontribs)

hello , sorry not to have seen the discussion page . indeed , it is 10.0.14393.82 . It would have microsoft communicates versions (in full) of Windows 10 .

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