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Edit conflict

I noticed the broken link after I saved the page. Immediately went to update it and added more information which caused an annoying page already updated conflict. I simply copied and pasted the entire edit buffer into a new update. RedWolf 05:33, Nov 14, 2003 (UTC)

Corrected Lat/Long

Source: List of highest mountains

Major additions

added seconds to lat/long (source: digital data)
minor frostbite, not severe, on first ascent
added entries to timeline (see sources)
various corrections/additions to timeline (see sources)
major revision of route info
sources added: two of the most standard, trusted reference books, plus the Alpine Club's Himalayan Index, and on-line digital data
links moved, added

--Spireguy 17:15, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Viewpoint info

I cleaned up the info about the "Zero Point of Rakaposhi." It was redundant and not particularly grammatical. --Spireguy

Range correction

The Karakoram are more properly considered a separate mountain range from the Himalaya, so I changed the first sentence to reflect that. --Spireguy 03:00, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Changed the infobox

I've removed the infobox because there was something wrong with the "coor" tag, I replaced it with the infobox used on Nanga Parbat's page which is more obvious, WYSIWYG. Waqas.usman 12:21, April 16, 2006 (UTC)

Old infobox: {{Mtnbox start|Name=Rakaposhi|Photo=Rakaposhi_1.jpg| Caption=Rakaposhi Peak from Aliabad| Elevation=7,788 metres (25,550 feet)| Location=[[Pakistan]] | Range=Rakaposhi-Haramosh Mountains, [[Karakoram]]}} {{Mtnbox coor dms|36|08|32|N|74|29|25E|type:mountain}} {{Mtnbox climb|First ascent=[[1958]] by Mike Banks and Tom Patey | Easiest route=glacier/snow/ice climb}} {{Mtnbox finish}}

I edited the infobox above because the template Mtnbox has been deprecated. This was done to facilitate the transition to the template infobox Mountain. Droll 02:43, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vertical rise---"no other point" claim

I deleted the claim that no other point has this much rise over 11.5km, since according to my info, Annapurna rises 5800m in 11.25km. (I don't think any other peak besides these two is a good contender for the 5800m rise title, but I'd have to check my info more thoroughly.) If someone can find a reliable source supporting an undisputed victory for Rakaposhi (and hence contradicting my Annapurna claim), feel free to reinstate. -- Spireguy (talk) 03:26, 26 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The claim, to my best knowledge, was actually correct. Annapurna I does not rise 5800 m unobscured above any place whatsoever within a radius of 11.25 km. The peak you're probably referring to is a minor subpeak of the Annapurna massif, called Baraha Shikhar (more info @Annapurna) which, as a matter of fact, beside Dhaulagiri W face, is a relevant competitor to the Rupal Face of Nanga Parbat which is most often referred to as the tallest wall in the world. There is no peak though, except for Rakaposhi, that rises nearly 6000 m uninterrupted in such a steep manner. This is the truly world's highest mountain in a colloquial sense, i.e. looked at from the valley flor or simply measured from its base and it well surpasses Everest in this regard (over twice the height of Everest N face).--46.171.197.14 (talk) 20:58, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Rakaposhi/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

hello,this is very first time to give any comments, actually i need some information about the rakaposhi mountain "The Shining Wall" but when i read the details about the persons of different countries who try to explore or successfully explore the rakaposhi mountain there was no name of "uffak Arsalan" the turkish climber & "pareshay" the pakistani climber who try to explore the most difficult ridg of rakaposhi mountain but unfortunately due to the weather problems they cant do that, and during there mission one member of their team her name was "Irsa" were died on raka poshi.please give me some information but above those persons.

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Random lines on this page.

There's a thumb word on the top which links it to the wikipedia page of a thumb. Last line for the paragraph asks the reader to go to youtube. looks like some self advertising. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.66.183.106 (talk) 02:49, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Was there a fatality on the first ascent of Rakaposhi ?

The section relating to the first ascent of Rakaposhi concludes with the sentence "Another climber slipped and fell on the descent and died during the night." I thought about adding a {{Citation needed}} tag but did some digging in the logs to see where that line originated.

The earliest record of the page in the history is back in 2003 and that sentence came in at the 3rd edit. At that time the page included no citations and had one reference and one external link. The link given to Rakaposhi on Peakware includes the pararaph "The party attempted the peak through the Monk's Head. Due to severe cold, it used additional "down-filled-clothing and 136 vapour-barrier boots". The leader, Captain Bank, and Lieutenant T.W. Paiey of the Royal Navy, climbed the peak. Banks had frost-bitten feet while Patey had frost-bitten hands. The party did not use oxygen. Just nearby is Rakaposhi (East) peak with a height of 7,290m/23,917ft. Another nearby peak is Rakaposhi (East-East) peak which has a height of 7,010m/23,000ft and was climbed in 1985 by an Austrian expedition which was led by Eduard Koblmuller. The party had originally thought, that, the height of this peak was 6,900m, but after the climb, from Diran peak's side, it placed put the height to 7,010m. During the descent from this peak, one member, Gerald Fellner slipped, fell down and despite medical attention, died in the night. Rakaposhi still holds its charisma for the most adventorous of souls! Would you like to make an attempt???" It seems reasonably clear that the line there "Another climber slipped and fell on the descent and died during the night." is refering to an entirely different expedition, and on a different mountain.

I've also been through through multiple accounts of the first ascent^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4] and also the chapter about the ascent in Patey's biography^[5]. I can't find any mention of a life being lost on the expedition, the penultimate paragraph in the chapter in Patey's biography refers to the expedition as a "a successful campaign", a pretty unlikely thing to write if a life had been lost.

If someone can find a reliable source supporting that sentence then please do reinstate the sentence I've removed.

Babybrew6 (talk) 22:42, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Banks, M.E.B; Mills, E.J.E (1960). "The Ascent of Rakaposhi". The Geographical Journal. CXXVI. The Royal Geographical Society. JSTOR 1790422.
^ Banks, Mike (1959). Rakaposhi. Secker & Warburg.
^ Banks, Capt. Mike (1958). "Rakaposhi Climbed". Himalayan Journal. #21: 55–59.
^ Brooke, F.R. (1958). "The Ascent of Rakaposhi" (PDF). Alpine Journal. #63: 159–168.
^ Patey, Tom (1973). One Man’s Mountain. Gollancz. ISBN 9780575013582.

[1] Banks, M.E.B; Mills, E.J.E (1960). "The Ascent of Rakaposhi". The Geographical Journal. CXXVI. The Royal Geographical Society. JSTOR 1790422.

[2] Banks, Mike (1959). Rakaposhi. Secker & Warburg.

[3] Banks, Capt. Mike (1958). "Rakaposhi Climbed". Himalayan Journal. #21: 55–59.

[4] Brooke, F.R. (1958). "The Ascent of Rakaposhi" (PDF). Alpine Journal. #63: 159–168.

[5] Patey, Tom (1973). One Man’s Mountain. Gollancz. ISBN 9780575013582.

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