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It seems a little odd to split out an article about the Nisenan, but with virtually no more information in it than the short couple of lines in the main article about the Maidu. I think it more appropriate to write something more detailed about the Nisenan in the main Maidu article, than to create a new article with so little to it. I believe this little stub is a candidate for speedy deletion. Mike 06:10, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I started to work on this earlier this evening but something came up so I couldn't finish. I'm currently reserching the Nisenan and wish too add as I find more. So it ma start a litle short but it should grow, hopefuly within the next few weeks, ta about as much as the article on the Maidu. So please don't put back up for speedy deletion, I'll be working on it as I can. Thanks. Formic15 07:22, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. I wouldn't have thought there was enough information to justify a separate article, but if you've got it, that's great. Just out of curiosity, where does your interest in this subject come from? Mike 16:26, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh well I live (and always have lived) in Natomas (part of sacramento just north the american river). Anyway, I love cali and I'm amazed by the past diversity of the valley, and apaled by the great loss in culture and language, so I've been trying to learn all I can about the native groups around here, in particular around my home of sac, so that includes the miwok and more localy for me the nisenan. My antropology teacher is an archeologist for cali so shes familiar with several of the tribes and gave me a photocopy of something on the nisenan (section from a book, note book, report not entirely sure, but it does source) I also have a small book on the basics of the language, and can find some other things from the library. I'm also trying to find whats left of the tribe, in particular this 'L. Hinton' who is suposedly the last speaker. Formic15 19:45, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nice! There may be more than one speaker of Nisenan left, from what I have read, but I can't say for sure. My own interest in this subject comes from being a descendent of the Konkows. I'm mostly white European (only 1/16th Konkow), but I have many distant cousins trying to revive the old ways as best they can. I guess I like to consider myself the chief among Wikipedians keeping the Maidu-related articles in good repair and improving them, but I'm glad someone else has an interest, too! I look forward to your contributions! --Mike 06:50, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well if your cousins are trying to revive the old ways, mabey you should try to learn more about the konkow and work on an article on it. Do they know the language? Cause if not they should try to find the few speakers and try to revive the language. So do you know anyone from the nisenan? Formic15 02:52, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

See Konkow language for the language. I plan to eventually make a Modern Konkow article from the information I have on it, but haven't had the time so far. I am not sure I can do a Konkow article distinct from what I put into the Maidu article. And I'm afraid I know no-one from the Nisenan. --Mike 03:56, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"L. Hinton" is Leanne Hinton, Linguistics Prof at UC Berkeley. I have no idea if she speaks Nisenan but she have been working with many tribes in the state to revive their languages. Modern Nisenan are in many of the tribes around Sacramento: the United Auburn Indian Community, Shigle Springs Band of Miwok, Ione Band of Miwok, and probably others. It would probably be hard for an outsider to get much information from them with regards to this subject aside from what you find in ethnographic writtings. Ceqa 21:56, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]