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Jigoku jime and crucifix are not the same, are they? Jigoku jime and variants involve a lapel grip and at least one leg to the body for torque, this is a little different. Judoka fact check? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.66.99.152 (talk) 21:43, 18 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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