Wikipedia:Deletion reform

The deletion procedure on Wikipedia, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, has recently come under harsh criticism from many users on Wikipedia, and there seems to be a general opinion in the community that it has to be somehow replaced or changed. This page is an effort to coordinate the different discussions and make it into a coherent, readable format.

Background

Anyone can edit Wikipedia. They can create, extend, correct, change, revamp, trim and rename pages freely. The only thing they can't do is freely delete pages. Unlike these other types of editing, deleting a page is more severe, and harder to correct for mistakes or vandalism.

This is because removing a page from Wikipedia removes the history of the page. Even if the page text is somehow restored, the edit history of all the contributors is still lost, which can violate Wikipedia's GFDL rules.

To prevent this, from very early on in Wikipedia, page deletion was reserved only to editors who (in theory) are less likely to delete pages by mistake or vandalism. These select few are called admins. Over time, rules have developed about how and when editors become admins, and rules about how and when admins can use their privileged ability to delete. There are also many special additions to the Wikipedia software engine to handle listing, reviewing, and restoring of deleted pages.

As a method of allowing ordinary editors to still participate in this exclusive activity, the Votes for Deletion (VfD) system, now renamed as Articles for Deletion (AfD), evolved. This is a forum (now a series of forums based on types of pages), where anyone can suggest pages be deleted, and others agree or disagree.

Wikipedia:Articles for Deletion works on the system that one user lists the page they want deleted on a subpage of the main deletion page, they put a template on the page specifying that the page is under consideration for deletion and then a vote/discussion takes place where a consensus decision is attempted. Eventually, an admin reviews the whole discussion, and may delete the page.

Although there are many editors that spend a lot of their time on Wikipedia participating in AfD, most also think the system can be improved in some way. This may be because AfD is dissimilar to the way the rest of Wikipedia works: without classes of editors, without voting, and without its own special centralized system.

• Advantages and problems of current system

Ideas/Suggestions

These are areas being brainstormed by the community. They are not complete, specific proposals, nor are they necessarily mutually exclusive, but categories for ideas.

• Decentralisation

Removing a central page for discussion

• Categorization

Using templates to include an article in a category and have the relevant discussion on the article's talk page.

• Remove or simplify voting

Keeping the system, but reform the voting-procedures

• Change powers

Changing the role of the administrator in AfD

• Specialised policies/precedents

Make specialized policies for inclusion or deletion for different subjects, see WP:MUSIC for instance

• Information

Change how the current system displays information to easily see how each vote is going

• Move things more quickly

Different ideas for how the current system can be done more expediently, such as removal of AfDs with clear consensus.

• Policy

Different ways of making AfD policy instead of a procedure and how that would affect the system

• Remove notable requirement

Prevent articles from being deleted solely for being "non-notable"

• Other

Current proposals for a new system

These are the proposals that are or were active, as of March 2006.

• Wikipedia:Amendment to deletion policy

Disallow content as a criterion for deletion, replacing it with topic.

• Categorized deletion (WP:DS)

A project to create a workable system for Deletion sorting.

• The Pure Wiki Deletion System (WP:PWDS)

Allow article blanking as uncontested deletion method. ( Optional and reversable precursor to AfD )

• Uncontested deletions

Allow articles marked for deletion to be deleted without AfD if uncontested. ( Optional and reversable precursor to AfD )

• Wikipedia:Transparent deletion

This is based on one idea only: deletions should be a normal part of article history, visible to all, rather than being a special case.

• Wikipedia:Proposed deletion

In testing. If proposed deletion uncontested after 7 days, no need for AfD.

Historical proposals

These proposals have either been inactive for a few weeks or have been specifically withdrawn.

• Prioritization and Noticeability

A minimalistic, easy to implement system which focuses on increasing the number of votes in a given time, and prioritizing AFDs.

• Requests for deletion

Add a category to the article and present your case on the talk page.

• The butt-simple option

A variation on Requests for Deletion which simplifies many procedures

• Votes for Deletion, the next generation

Heavily revising the procedures for the current system, for instance moving votes to talk pages and introducing binary voting, ie either delete or keep.

• DPL deletion

A mix between Wikipedia:Requests for deletion and Wikipedia:Votes for Deletion, the next generation

• Uninvited Company's suggestion

Establishing firm rules for articles on different topics and other ideas.

• Speedy redirect

Pre-emptive redirects. This was an idea; now it's a proposal

• Small fixes

Use daily article categories and have discussion on talk pages, and a little more.

• Gazpacho's proposal

Move to categories and talk pages, binary voting, any user can close and admin s review if requested

• Version System

Proposed system whereby all articles get a numerical rating and poor scores are automatically placed on the AfD page (after enough time and votes).

• Xaa's Proposal

Understanding where the system is breaking down, streamline AfD by eliminating much of the guesswork and opinion/adjudication required by the process. Withdrawn at the request of Amorrow, please see this article's Talk Page. (Note: Xaa is being stalked by Amorrow, and wishes to avoid further confrontations.)

• -Ril-'s suggestion

Similar proposal to the version system sketch, but more automated, applying to every version, and without AfD

• -Ril-'s alternative suggestion

Variation on the version system sketch, whereby randomly selected editors have the ability to say that a version is better or worse than it could be, the random selection of editors being changed every 2 hours, with better (determined by scores for versions they have worked on) editors having more chance of being selected, and no AfD

• The Karmafist Plan

A clarification of user's choices and administrator's powers.

• Speedy Delete For Pages With No Citations

Reduce the number of articles that need to go through AFD by adding a new speedy deletion criteria requiring at least one citation for any new page.

• Wikipedia:Deletion requests (as far as I know, this was never proposed to the community at large)
• Wikipedia:Countdown_deletion
• Wikipedia:Expeditious deletion
• Wikipedia:Preliminary Deletion (only proposal to gather anything near a majority)
• Wikipedia:Managed Deletion

General comments

If you wish to make general comments or participate in the discussion, you can do so here. If you wish to comment on a proposal, please do so at the page relevant to the proposal in question.

See also

• Wikipedia:Perennial proposals#Deletion, a list of rejected changes to Wikipedia's deletion policies
• Wikipedia:Importance, which aims to reduce AfD debates.
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Speedy keep proposal, which aims to agree a policy on speedy-keeping articles within the current system.