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Hey, welcome back! I note that you're still listed in the main volunteer list under your old username. Would you update that, please? Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 21:09, 25 July 2015 (UTC) (Not watching)

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Please note that WP:NACD says: "Participants, including participating administrators, should not reopen non-admin closures. If this happens, any editor other than the closer may restore the closure..." Kraxler (talk) 23:54, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

• Understood, and my sincere apologies. I posted a longer response at Sandstein's talk. North of Eden (talk) 23:55, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

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North of Eden, while I appreciate the help at AfD, I have struck out your closing rationale at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carolyn Mackenzie (2nd nomination), though it does not change the result. Please see Wikipedia:Non-admin_closure#Appropriate_closures: it is clear that those conditions do not apply, since there is much contention over the acceptability of the sources. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 22:19, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Democratic primaries

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Per DRN guidelines and general expectations, I am obliged not to discuss user conduct issues. As noted on the relevant DRN page, please direct such concerns to WP:AN/I or a similar forum. North of Eden (talk) 00:56, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

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I implore you to join us on the article, since Prccc is now turning to vandalism and WP:OR by ignoring sources and reverting my edits. Please and thank you! Nitroxium (talk) 03:00, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

• @Nitroxium: Maybe you should have a look at what WP:VANDALISM actually says before falsely accusing me of violating it. "Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content, in a deliberate attempt to damage Wikipedia." I did not damage Wikipedia with my edits and even if I did it wasn't done deliberately. Please follow WP:Assume good faith, thank you! Prcc27 (talk) 23:09, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

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Am I eligible to be a DRN volunteer?

Hello there Eden! I was wondering if I could lend my hand in WP:DRN. I know that I could just add my name but, I thought an advice from a familiar editor would be supportive. Can you just run a check on me, my histories, my edits etc., and notify me if I can make a good volunteer out of me? Feel free to make any sort of comments on my background and I'll happily accept it. Thanks in advance. Regards --JAaron95 ^Talk 05:37, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

• @Jaaron95: Certainly! I'd be happy to look things over in more detail, and I'm sure you'd make a great contributor at DRN. From what I saw from a very cursory look, you've received a number of userrights (indicative of high community trust) and your work making the AfD process run smoothly is also a plus. Anyone is welcome to moderate discussions at DRN; I'm just getting back in the hang of it myself, and I'd be happy to help out as you get started. North of Eden (talk) 05:41, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

@North of Eden: Thanks for the input! Appreciate it !! I'll go ahead and add my name to the list (once you provide me a detailed report second go ahead) and monitor the going for a few days before involving myself into the discussions which are non-complex. You have the absolute privilege to comment/correct my volunteer work in DRN and I'll accept it happily without any reprimands. Once again, thanks for considering my request. Regards--JAaron95 ^Talk 05:54, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

@Jaaron95: No problem, happy to help! I looked over some of your contribs, and was especially impressed by your demeanor and civility at Talk:Supercarrier. That's the kind of attitude that can make a major difference at DRN, especially when disputants are furious at each other. Also, your involvement at AfC indicates that you have an understanding of the policies governing article content. WP:RS and WP:OR come up a lot at DRN. Just as a suggestion, my guiding rule at DRN is to encourage the editors, ask provocative questions at times, and occasionally summarize how the discussion is going. If there's something I think is a key issue, or a possible resolution, I will generally mention that, as well. Also, I know User:TransporterMan and User:Keithbob, among others, are very experienced DRN moderators. It might be helpful to look in the DRN discussion archives for some successful disputes they helped resolve; you might find some ideas there. North of Eden (talk) 19:32, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Very thanks for the in-detail report.. Happy that I'd be able to help DRN. And I'll take your suggestion as a guiding line. I'll go through the archives too. Thanks once again. Regards--JAaron95 ^Talk 02:20, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Welcome! -- — Keithbob • Talk • 17:59, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

@Keithbob: You should've pinged me . Anyways, thanks.—☮JAaron95 ^Talk 17:36, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

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Your word on WP:DRN#Talk:Balochistan#Recent changes is appreciated

Hello Eden, just added my name to DRN and added a suggestion on the above case.. I would like to have you take a look at the case and file your opinions (Close the case if it's appropriate). Thank you. Regards--JAaron95 ^Talk 05:52, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

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It's ok, no big deal. I forgive you. But you shouldn't go on fishing expeditions , I didn't know warning someone about a username violation meant that person was a sock. I have AIN on my watch list and when I saw a user with that username I reported it and was told to go to his/her talk page to warn him/her about it. Hundreds of people signed up since August 1st, are they all socks of TEOTW?? RbAxM33320 (talk) 17:33, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

• @RbAxM33320: Understood; that makes sense. I wasn't out looking for other socks or something, I just noticed your comment; its circumstances reminded me of some comments posted by the sockpuppet (User:Cityside189) used by TEoATW. The modus operandi of this sock was to somewhat stridently criticize the other, and warn of possible consequences if the other did not comply. Given your reply, it seems like it was an innocent edit that, given its timing, seemed suspicious. North of Eden (talk) 17:39, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

It was also just flat-out wrong. There is no username violation. If there was one of the half-dozen admins involved in that situation would have noticed it. And even if there was a violation, coming on all threatening isn't how we discuss username issues. Personallky I'm not convinced you weren't right all along about this. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:29, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Dispute resolution

First of all, thank you very much for your assistance in the Liverpool F.C.–Manchester United F.C. rivalry dispute resolution discussion. As you suggested, Chrisuae initiated a mediation request: [1], which was declined because PeeJay refused to agree to the mediation, despite being a very active editor. Yet another editor has agreed with our proposed edit in the article's talk page, further to the consensus we pretty much reached in the dispute resolution (prevented from happening due, again, to PeeJay's refusal), so I have implemented the edit. I wanted to ask, if PeeJay reverts the edit, which I predict he will, what further action can be taken? It seems that if an editor wants to hold a monoploy on an article, which is what's happening here, they can do so if they are determined and stubborn enough, by simply refusing to participate in the proper discourse. Sorry to trouble you with this again, but it seems all our good work will be for nothing because one editor gets to call all the shots for the article, contrary to everyone else's opinion. Thanks again. Autonova (talk) 18:11, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

• @Autonova: It looks like PeeJay has consented to formal mediation. Not sure how MedCom will proceed from here, but I would think they'll take the case. Thanks, North of Eden (talk) 23:48, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

aginstthe Death penalty

"Despite the current situation, Together Against The Death Penalty (ECPM) continues its efforts to support and strengthen the abolitionist movement in the MENA region. " is just one example of the promotionalism for its cause. I deleted it. DGG ( talk ) 03:46, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

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My thought exactly

Wikipedia_talk:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion/Archive_56#G5. I am thinking of writing an article (Op-ed) for The Signpost about this. This issue is a dead horse on Deletion policy pages, but I think the wider community not aware of G5 may be interested in seeing this (IMHO) idiotic and destructive rule. (I say this as someone who already wrote an article for TS calling for more actions to be done re paid-for spam, see WP:CORPSPAM, and I weakly support the current G5 proposal to extend it to paid edits). But fighting spam and vandalism should never detract us from our primary mission of creating an encyclopedia. I wonder if you'd be interested in writing the article for TS together with me? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:16, 2 April 2019 (UTC)