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His Father was not Cengiz Han, because Y-DNA show's it

Latest comment: 6 months ago3 comments3 people in discussion

Hello, my name is Timur Giray, I am am male descendant of Sahin Giray. Myself and a few other male members of the Dinasty made an Y-DNA Test, and the result is we belong in the Y-DNA to R1 Z93. The Z93 is the Central Asia Branch of R1.

So it is said we belong to Cengiz Han trough his son Jochi. But there is a Y-DNA of Cengiz Han who said he belongs to C-M217. So the rumours about Jochis biological Father was the Menkrit Prince Chilger Bökh is truth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.46.112.43 (talk) 15:01, 7 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

In the absence of DNA testing of Jochi himself even that is inconclusive and not really proof. After all, somewhere further down the years/family tree there might have been a(n other) "false paternity" event. -- user:fdewaele, 7 May 2015, 23:26.

1) Who exactly are those of your relatives who received Z93?

2) The Girays descending from Jochi is just one of many theories.

3) It's not certain that Chengis was not Z93. --Yomal Sidoroff-Biarmskii (talk) 15:51, 9 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

Hello, I think that Jochi was true natural son of Temujin Cengiz Han because his wife Borte could inform him about her pregnancy in very early term due to her physiological sign even before her markit capture and after shortly her capture she gave birth her son Jochi who was acceppted by Cengiz Han as his natural son. And what about your DNA haplogroup test result it is also needed to test and compare male line descendants of other sons of Cengiz Han and Borte. Dmitry Azikov (talk) 03:27, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

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