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Talk:Chess Olympiad

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Greenman in topic Shouldn't Peter Svidler be here?

Total team ranking: Germany/West Germany

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It does not make sense to lump together the German medals from 1930, 1939, 2000 under "Germany" but have the medals from 1950 and 1964 seperately under "West Germany". The "West Germany" from 1950 and 1964 and the Germany from 2000 are literally the same country (Federal Republic of Germany) while the Germany from before was the German Reich. I think the best solution and my proposal is to combine Germany and West Germany under "Germany". The second best solution that would at least make some sense would be that the medals in the 1930s were for the German Reich and the later ones for the Federal Republic of Germany. If the argument is that West Germany is separated from Germany because the territory was a lot smaller: Sure, but the Germany today is also a lot smaller than the territory from the 1930s (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/60/34/f4/6034f4b3c27d1502053e202e5ad7e9ab.png) so whey are they lumped together. If you go by territory it should be 1930 and 1939 in one category (big Germany), 1950 and 1964 (small Germany) and 2000 (medium Germany).


Old talk

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What about Intellympic Games? --92.113.45.27 (talk) 08:14, 20 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

bug in record history tables. in the first one, the czechs won the first olympiad, but they still stand at 0 golds in the second table — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.224.155.222 (talk) 21:11, 1 February 2013 (UTC)Reply


Televised

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Is it televised? 195.188.112.2 (talk) 03:57, 9 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

There were several reports and interviews regarding the Dresden Olympiad on German TV though there was next to nothing at former Olympiads. I guess it gets more attention in the host nation than elsewhere. 93.133.137.226 (talk) 18:51, 25 November 2008 (UTC) --Reply

Misleading Maps

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The map highlighting the nations participating in the 1926 Olympiad is highly misleading since it uses a modern map as its base. The political map in 1926 was vastly different from today, with Germany being an important example since it participated but is shown with its current (as of 2009) borders.

Also, what the dark green coloring means in the 2006 map is never explained. -- JovanCormac (talk) 12:55, 20 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

The picture's own page has the explanation, though it is never in this article... 85.217.15.230 (talk) 02:43, 24 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Anti-Olympiad

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Shouldn't the article include the "Anti-Olympiad" in Tripoli in 1976, arranged and attended by the countries that boycotted the "real" Olympiad in Haifa. After all, the non-FIDE Nazi propaganda event in 1936 is included as well. And shouldn't the 1976 event have it's own article too? - perhaps 4th unofficial Chess Olympiad? dllu (talk) 09:21, 23 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

olympiad/olympics?

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Is there any information available why it is called "olympiad"? Because when concerning the actual olympics, it means the interval between olympics, not the games itself. 85.217.15.230 (talk) 00:28, 3 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Table of Best Individual Results

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The article has a listing of the "Best Individual Results," but fails to mention on what board the results were obtained. Almost surely all the players mentioned played on first board, but mention of that fact should definitely be made. Abenr (talk) 23:42, 7 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Online Chess Olympiad

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In my opinion, the interview by chess.com to the FIDE President Arkady Dvorkovich [1] clarifies why the results of the Online Olympics belong to their own page, not here.

Here the most relevant quote:

“But the name is not FIDE Chess Olympiad, the name is FIDE Chess Online Olympiad. The name is different. I don't think we should consider the two Olympiads as completely the same, put them in the same line. I think the Online Olympiad is really important, it's a big event, but it's just not the same and we should all understand that.”

Gengis Gat (talk) 22:04, 6 September 2020 (UTC)Reply


I agree with the above. In addition there are other reasons to keep them separate: 1. the time control is rapid (15+5) instead of classical (at least 90+30). most professional tournaments use classical time controls 2. Open, women, juniors, and girls are all mixed together. Do we count a gold medal for both open and women's olympiads? Doesn't make sense. 3. Format is stages + knockout instead of 11 rounds of swiss. 4. Anti-cheating regulations are different (not necessarily more relaxed, but just different, using probabilities and such) compared to normal electric scanning 5. Online format vs in-person format is different, because of the playing experience. You can't see your opponent's facial expressions, etc.

Basically there is very little similarity between this and the real olympiad -- other than the fact that both are named "olympiad".

70.66.250.180 (talk) 20:57, 11 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

I restored again the page. Should the Online Olympiad medals be added again to the totals without discussion, I'll ask the admins to intervene. --Gengis Gat (talk) 10:31, 18 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. I don't have an account so I'm not sure how to contact admin. It's getting quite ridiculous now. I should point out a further reason to not include the results from the online olympiad is that silver and bronze medals were not awarded...

70.66.250.180 (talk) 01:17, 20 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

I don't think the online olympiad should even be in the table. It's a different kind of event, not part of the normal continuum of chess olympiads. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 05:26, 21 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
The vandal has been reported ([2]). Let us see if this bring some result. Obviously, should they be reading, they are welcome to present their reasons in this page. --Gengis Gat (talk) 09:33, 21 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
The vandal has been blocked for the last two days. He is now unblocked again, let us see if the reverts stop. Otherwise I agree with MaxBrowne2 that the medals should not be in the table at all. It was not an unofficial event like the others whith the grey background, it was just an event of another type. So my preferred version of the table would be this one: [3], except for replacing "Cancelled and postponed" with just "postponed". But the current version is also acceptable. Gengis Gat (talk) 21:38, 24 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
The online olympiad can be mentioned and linked to, but it should be treated as a different kind of event. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 22:23, 24 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Shouldn't Peter Svidler be here?

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The "multiple time medalists" table is supposed to show every player, who won 7 or more team medals. Peter Svidler was part of the Russian teams that won 5 gold medals (1994,1996,1998,2000,2002) and 2 Silver Medals (2004, 2010). I might be making a simple mistake here, but shouldn't he be on the list? 2001:9E8:6CF0:1D00:5D3D:349E:B51D:46FD (talk) 00:13, 9 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

If indeed he won 7 team medals, then yes, he should appear on the list. The bigger problem is that none of the information is sourced, so there is no easy way to verify any of the information in the table without manual checking. Greenman (talk) 09:16, 9 August 2022 (UTC)Reply